I didn't really pay attention to Maggette when he was with the Clippers. But based on his play in Golden St. I don't think you can judge him. That whole team takes bad shots because of their style of play.
I wish there was some way to get RJ instead of Artest. I do like Ron's fighting spirit but he does take a lot of bad shots.
Here is a comparison for those who think Magette's contract is too large. Maggette's career stats .451 FG% .323 3p% .820 FT% 5.1 rpg 2.2 apg 16.3 ppg 29.3 mpg Magette $8.28 million this year Ron Artest's career stats .421 FG% .336 3pt% .721 FT% 5.1 rpg 3.1 apg 16.0 ppg 34.8 mpg Ron Artest $8.45 million this year Tracy McGrady's career stats .436 FG% .339 3pt% .749 FT% 6.1 Rpg 4.7 apg 22.1 ppg 35.0 mpg Tracy McGrady $21.12 million this year Magette actually looks like a pretty good deal here, and this year, his averages are even better. Magette is at 19.7ppg and shooting .464% Artest is at 15.9ppg and shooting .373% Tmac is at 15.8ppg and shooting .388 Magette is arguably a better deal than any of those......I don't understand why people would not consider him, he is playing at an all star level RIGHT NOW. DD
Just think about how porous the defense would be if both guys were on the court at the same time. Not to mention the fact of their overlap and clash on offense. Adelman's offense has everyone messed up and Maggette would likely shoot a lower percentage as a Rocket just like Artest. Even if you buy the notion that Maggette would be an upgrade over Artest for this season, it would be a small upgrade at best and the Rockets' cap would be killed.
Is that why GS is/was trying to move him? Whatever happened to your fascination with Mike Miller? Miller at $10M next year then off the books is the more reasonable gamble. At least there's no dangerous long-term investment in the guy. And not that we should be making trades to please T-Mac, but given their close relationship i'm sure this type of move would help chemistry somewhat. Sort of an added bonus. I'm still not convinced I would do that deal given how poorly Miller has played all year, just saying I would consider him before Maggette.
What all those stats don't tell you is how atrocious he is on defense. Absolutely 0 effort almost every night. Unless you want our interior players to be on the bench with foul trouble every night, I'd stay away from Magette. I generally like to stay away from players who starred on perennial lottery teams.
Actually the Rockets defense is sorrier than the offense and Maggette would make it even worse. Think about it. If the Rockets had solid team chemistry and a strong ethic on defense, maybe they could absorb a guy like Maggette and minimize his negative influence. Plus, his effect on the offense would NOT be what you expect. You can't just look at a player's stats on offense and know the effect of him being on the team. That is where you are missing the boat here.
No A, I am in the pocket here.....Magette is a better version of Von Wafer, who has the officials respect, he is SOOOOO much better as an offensive player than anyone the Rockets currently have, he makes the team much more efficient. He would be the key to stopping those late game collapses, having a player that ATTACKS the basket relentlessly is the key to winning close games late. It is ok, we disagree..... DD
Wow man, the way you contradict yourself on the boards is wild. You complain about selfishness and no defense but you want Corey Maggette on the squad? This is a guy who works out solely to pad his stats every year and wont mind admitting that he wants to get more points. Couple that with the list of guys you named sans Hinrich who doesn't play defense nor is known for it. Maggette gets to the line but he's not LeBron James and he doesn't stop any late game collapses. Have you watched a Clipper game in your life? There is a reason they call the guy bad p*rn and its a fitting name for his time on the court.
Simply not true, not every player is the same, and some fit in differently than others but still make the team better.
He is indeed "on a roll". YOU are the one "looking at the individual" and not "considering the overall ramifications for the Rockets". Maggette has a skillset that you are lasered on but you can't see how his overall game (selfishness and total lack of defense) would further nuke the poor chemistry of the Rockets.
Von Wafer knows his weaknesses, he's trying to work on them. Maggette thinks he's perfect and has never turned down a shot in his life. He even loves taking threes when he knows he's only effective taking it to the hoop. You want Maggette as a third/fourth option, not as a focal point. He never passes on his drives and he can't space the floor enough for Yao. And our team defense is already bad enough as it is. With Maggette's huge contract who could you even trade to get him? It wouldn't be worth it.
If you have watched him this year, you would see that he passes a lot, and is used more as a quick flasher across the lane. He gets to the rim and takes on contact....man he would be GREAT here in Houston as the 3rd option behind Yao and Tmac....not good....GREAT ! Magette makes less than Artest, you could get him for that contract alone... Magette puts us on par with the NBA's elite.... DD
When i watch Magette I dont see him pass it at ALL. Every time he gets his hands on the ball its either a jumpshot or drive into the lane. Its like seeing Artest get the ball.
Well I only watched him as a clipper, so it's very disturbing to see his assist numbers actually DROP in Nelson's system. I know he's playing in a new system, but let's not pretend that it's one of his strengths. And he's shooting 19% from downtown this season, which won't help Yao one bit. That's never been one of his strengths either. If you want him as a third option, you really have to reign him in. He wasn't a very good third option next to Cassell and Brand, who are somewhat similar to Yao and Tmac. Cassell made everyone on that team better, and everyone bought into what he could do. Everyone except Maggette, that is. He was injured to start the season and the clippers were rolling. Once he came back he continued to iso, take ill-advised shots, and play poor defense until Dunleavy was eventually forced to bench him in favor of Quinton Ross. Maggette is talented, but I don't think he's interested in playing team ball. I think Artest is the better player overall and at the very least he can shoot the ball and defend, which is more than can be said for Maggette. Also, I'm willing to let Artest walk at the end of the season rather than be locked up with CMagg's giant long term deal. We need to rebuild in 2010 and it's obvious.
