[Chronicle] Stagnant, "selfish" Rockets crash. Haven't we been here before?

OMG why the hell would you believe someone as delusional as Rafer Alston? He's as much a ball stopper as tmac and Artest. Look at his stat line before you go about believing the rubbish that's coming out of his mouth. I'm not defending Tmac and Artest here, but I find it laughable that the one calling them out is just as guilty as they are

 

I can't believe how many games we've lost to Eastern Conference teams this season (WAS, TOR, PHI, NYK, INDx2). All of these losses came with McGrady and/or Artest in the lineup.

Something must be done. Morey has never led us astray before and I don't expect him to do so now.

I just think Ron wants to win so badly, he gets tunnel vision. Let's just see how it plays out. There's a lot of season left.

 

Ron Artest literally shot us out of the game along with McGrady.

Yao ming is the Franchise player and if the Rockets want to win a playoff series they need him desperately.

This team has some of the most stagant offense of any playoff hopeful, explains why Toyota Center is quiet and a boring place to watch a game.

 

again, we should not overreact. Wait until they come back to Houston and have a stretch at home where they can practice together with same squad.

Until then let's be patient and hope that Aldeman will do his job like he did when Tmac and Ron went out.

 

exactly, we just need practice time (like 3-4 in a row) and we'll be fine. and we have this long homestretch coming up to do that.

i think we'll be fine really. we prove we can do it v. detroit. consistency comes from practice. we'll get that consistency down.

 

If I woke up tomorrow and found out that T Mac or Ron had been traded for a solid point guard, I'd be perfectly OK with that. I was hesitant to trade Tracy before, because his contract has more value next season, but I'm so tired of losing. I am just so sick and tired of watching the Rockets lose. It's been 15 years since this franchise was respectable, and 15 years is too damn long.

 

Somebody has to say something and rafer has that right to voice his opionion more than anyone on this message board. Rafer is out on the court each game,Rafer is at practice,Rafer see's what's going on which is selfish one on one play from T-mac and Ron artest.


Rafer's poor play can be easily attributed to Ron and T-mac's selfish one on one approach.

 

I must of missed the quote where he didn't blame himself? I thought he used 'we' 'us' etc. They played selfish it was obvious to anyone who watched the game and he merely stated the truth. I don't know why people are coming in getting into Rafer...

I guess that's the problem when you have posters who are fans of players and not the team this site is for. I love all the team while they are Rockets but sometimes they deserve criticism... it gets pretty annoying when people clearly are not playing well and fitting in and instead of talking about how it could be fixed you get idiots defending players who are obviously deserving of the criticism they're getting.

 

the thing is the entire team didn't play selfish. rafer, tracy, and ron played selfish. the entire team wasn't lazy. the entire team wasn't putting out the effort.

 

I just think what the coach wants to do offensively and what the team is capable of is a bad fit. Until u get players that fit what he wants to do instead of running this hybrid type offense, then its going to be inconsistent with or without yao. I think there are 3 or 4 players on the whole team that can run the offense he wants to run. Sadly, those guys are bench players, not starters.

 

It doesn't matter who was I am merely stating that Rafer didn't excuse himself, so I don't see why people are ripping him for saying it? If Mac or Artest had said it too I would still be glad because at least someone in the system has said openly what we the fans are thinking.. You just hope instead of it creating a bigger rift in the locker room that what there already may be that the guys sit down and think to themselves 'You know what, I need to stop being lazy and i'm going to learn the plays and run where I should and get back on D'....However I am not confident it will happen. The most frustrating thing is while Mac and Artest were out the rest of the team showed us the system works when everyone puts in the effort.

 

If McGrady said it, the fans would be all over the board saying McGrady threw his teammates under the bus.

 

I only saw parts of the game, but from what I saw, it wasn't pretty. Rafer makes some good points, and despite his history of being a sub-par shooter, I've always liked him. It isn't as phenomenal as Gilbert Arenas', but I like his Swag. I think it's that tough, NYC playground attitude coupled with the kissing of refs that I like. He could afford to shoot a little less at times, but he's A-OK in my book.

And I always thought him and Yao had the best on-floor chemistry. The way he would use a Yao screen to get open 3 pointers, and I know a lot of people hate his tear-drops, but I think he does it more when he knows Yao is close to the basket because it's an easier rebound to get if it misses. That's just my opinion. They just seem to work well together.

The Daily Dime just dedicated a section to Alston's comments, too.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-090127

 

Horrible game. We lost control of the game near the end when we were leading. I don't think any team will win when your starters with major PT
is bricking seriously like 4-19 (1-10 from the 3 pt line), 7-20, 3-10 and Battier with 32 min PT only contributed 3 pts (2 shots). Artest should have quit shooting from 3pt line when he is got 1 out of 4-5 times from 3 pt line and starts to drive into inside or pass out. I hope everyone go back to shooting practice and continue with practice throughout the season.

 

McGrady never played against Indiana both times, but you're right... when they're in the lineup we have a tendency of giving up leads and losing.

 

dude, how old are you? why are you being naive? he used 'we' and 'us' because he doesnt wanna come out a jerk and throwing tmac/artest under a bus.

all throughout the interview, all he was thinking about was tmac and artest's actions costing them the game. and why would you say something like that? it'll only fracture the team even more. he's making it a tmac/artest against the rockets team. the locker room situation seemed to quiet down with the detroit win. but now, you're stroking the fire. rafer had been like this the entire season with tmac. i wont be even surprised if the entire problems before was caused by rafer jawing/complaining about tmac. is he even the team captain?

if he's so upset, why doesnt he shut up and let his game speak for himself. keep passing the ball, keep moving and not taking shots. he keeps dissing artest and tmac and you guys think that's cool? while tmac has nothing but praises for rafer alston.

and if you guys are rockets fans and not player fans like some of us, then why arent you pointing out rafer? seems to me that the RA and DMs confidence in him has gotten to his head and made him thinking that he's the general and his opinion is the opinion of the rockets organization. his interviews in the media doesnt serve the team any good. it only causes scandals and ruins the team spirit.

but, back to your post. if you didnt watch the knicks game, the team lost the lead when tmac and artest was sitting. you guys just dont realize that the system works WHEN it works, but it doesnt work EVERY time. otherwise, all the team in the NBA would be using it. and EVERY single team that RA coached would have won the championship already. there are times that you would need that great individual player to get you those wins.

do you think LA would be better without Kobe? Or the Cavs without LBJ? or the magic without dwight?

The rockets would be a good team without tracy or ron or yao. but it's the individual greatness of these three players that makes the rockets great. unfortunately, rafer doesnt seem to realize that and has this delusion that he's at par with either of those 3.

 

Mate, how old are you? You have a go at my post without obviously having the ability to read it for what it was or bother reading it at all? I thought I made it pretty obvious I prefer T-Mac and Artest in the team but we would be better if they played the system like the others? You disagree? explain why? because that's what it seems like you're saying.

 

You seen another approach thats worked so far? Maybe it's just a basketball thing because in the other sports I follow people get called out a lot, the difference is they never seem to sulk but strive to prove people wrong.

Because he probably knows they're better players than him and knows what they can do if they put their mind to it.

Don't mean to sound like a jerk but if your just a player fan, why don't you send your player v player crap to the T-Mac websites?

From the game.
Wafer +11
Mac -12

 

Alston had a horrible game, it's surprising to hear him run his mouth like that. One thing to keep in mind:

Alston has been on a big streak of scoring. The game before Tmac/Ron came back, he was quoted as saying that they would have to adjust to HIM and play off HIM as well. Against the Pistons, Alston had another big night. Tonight? Not so much. Maybe there's some ego behind those comments.

Watching the game, the loss is Ronnie's fault. I won't fault someone for missing open shots, those happen. But Artest was not about the team whatsoever tonight. I was screaming at the TV - Tmac was on a role and yet they kept throwing it into Artest in the post to have him do his crappy fadeaway shot. Tmac had six assist, but he would've had close to double digits if Ron could shoot straight.

Bottom line: this one wasn't on Tmac.

 

No thanks, I don't want anyone else from that quitter gene pool.