Watching the Kings and Jazz game right now had me wondering if there is a bigger whiner then Vlade Divac in the NBA? Iverson and Webber are close, but I think Vlade has em both beat.
Cassell. Divac flops more than he whines, though he does whine a lot. Cassell looks at the ref after every missed shot, which allows his man to go on a fastbreak.
Cat always looks like he's getting an enema after every foul, but I guess he's not as bad as some others.
Maybe Karl Malone on the few occasions he gets whistled: he'll turn to the ref and say, "Hey, that guy hit my elbow with his face." Then, sotto voce: "I pay you enough. Damn." Brad Miller of the Pacers is bad. He stares at the refs every time he misses a basket. Meanwhile, the opponents just ran off a fastbreak. (Parenthetically, he's funny when he tries to draw a foul. Being white and uncoordinated, I guess, and a bad actor: he throws his arms up and yells, but I swear it's a full second after there was any human contact on the court.) Jalen Rose is bad because he's on a no-respect team now. But to his credit, he does take a beating with no whistles ever.
Are we talking about just whining in general, or whining to the refs? Because they're two different things. If were' talking whining in general, the worst in the history of the NBA is right here: http://bbs.clutchcity.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32363
Stockton never gets a chance to whine... he's never called for any fouls : ). And Reggie does whine, but he does more of his patented fake-to-get-the-guy-off-his-feet-then-jump-into-him-to-draw-a-foul thing. That's not really whining, that's just cheating. You've gotta give this one to Rasheed Wallace... the thing with him is that he's totally convinced of a conspiracy against him. When you have a player with that mentality, he's not just going to whine... he downright insults the referees' integrity every time they make a call. Who's worse than that?
Not by a long shot... Jordan did far worse. Read this: Capital intrigue Collins' relationship with Jordan being tested Posted: Monday April 01, 2002 11:39 PM Updated: Monday April 01, 2002 11:59 PM By Jennifer Cooper, CNNSI.com Doug Collins had a rough week. It all started Wednesday, when he innocently speculated that he'd be surprised if Michael Jordan returned for the second year of his contract next season. That comment kicked off a media frenzy, even though Collins later said it didn't mean much. “I was surprised he played this year,” the Washington head coach said. “He’s surprised me a lot.” Nonetheless, the “Wizards organization” issued a gag order for Collins, telling him not to discuss Jordan's plans for next season with the media. Things got worse Sunday, when Washington lost to Dallas in a game critical to the Wizards' postseason hopes. Following the 110-103 heartbreaker, Jordan blamed Collins for not using him at point guard as much as he should have and said Washington's playoff fate is in the coach's hands. “[Collins is] going to have to earn his coaching ring to try to find my minutes and how to minimize my minutes and keep me in the focus of what's happening with this team,” Jordan said. Prior to the start of the season, there was a lot of speculation about just how the relationship between Collins and Jordan would work. With the Wizards sitting 2 1/2 games out of the eighth spot and fighting for their playoff lives, we're finding out where the balance of power lies. As if there was ever any doubt. Give me a friggin' break! Collins bent over backwards to do what Jordan wanted, and Jordan, the supposed "greatest player ever" (yeah, right), is using Collins as an excuse. What makes this so amusing is that Collins coached Jordan with the Bulls, back in the day. Collins tried to make him a complete player by playing him at PG. Jordan didn't like it; he wanted to shoot, so he had Collins fired. Now, because Jordan knew Collins really was a good coach, he hired him to coach the Wizards. And now he's complaining because Collins DIDN'T play him at point?! He led the team this season with 1324 FG attempts. Hamilton was second with 984, Whitney was third with 595. He also shot a lower percentage than both of them. Jordon was also second in the Dallas game in FG attempts (4-14) in just 28 minutes! Does this sound like a man who wants to play point? No. Jordan was just a really good gunner who doesn't want to take responsibility for anything. I don't know where this "greatest player ever" foolishness ever came from. There are at least a dozen players better than Jordan that I can think of right off the top of my head.
I love Cuttino's whining. A lot of times, when he hates the call, he plops on the court like a baby and flails his arms and legs. Then he yells something to the ref and is T'd up. Then Steve'll pick him up, and pull him away from the official. Cuttino stares at the ref. Steve makes him turn his body away. Cuttino is still staring. He is boring holes into the ref now. In about a 5-minute span after the tech, Cat demands the ball and takes control of the game. Go Cat!
I am absolutely dying of suspense over here waiting to see your list of AT LEAST a dozen players better than Jordan. You better give me at least twelve! But before you do that, let me go make some popcorn and pour myself a drink. I want to get the full effect of reading this.
You obviously began watching the NBA in the 80's, and have no idea that basketball even existed before Magic and Bird. You want 12 players? Here they are: Wilt Chamberlain Bill Russell Jerry West Oscar Robertson Eligin Baylor Larry Bird Magic Johnson Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Hakeem Olajuwon Julius Erving Rick Barry Elvin Hayes Walt Frazier Dave Cowens ... and SCOTTIE PIPPEN Oh, sorry, I meant to put 12, but those 15 just popped out so fast that I couldn't stop myself. My fingers actually skidded. All right, let's go. I'll argue that Chamberlain was the best ever. I'm going to enjoy this.