^^ we actually played better w/o mcgrady this season, and it has happened multiple times. it's just a fact, isn't it? why? i'm not doing the due diligence right now. sorry guys.
regardless of how badly tracy has played: here are the records we are 17-11 WITH tracy we are 7-5 WITHOUT tracy we may have "looked" better without tracy in terms of effort, but results are what counts. that's why there's no way morey will look to trade tracy.
Mcgrady has a history of skipping games against tough opponents and playing against weaker competition. That has more to do with the records than anything else. Additionally those 17 wins with Mcgraady, most of them the Rockets won inspite of Mcgrady not because of him.
by the way 17 wins out of 28 is 60% winning % 7 wins out of 12 is 58.3% winning % Statistically they are pretty much identical with the small sample size for the year. 1 win or loss would negate any difference or make the Rockets winning % better without Mcgrady.
it's that easy to win "in spite" of a player. really? you think we can put luther head in for 33 minutes and win "in spite" of him? really?
i agree. that tells you if anything, they play the same with or without tracy mcgrady, not better. tracy's impact isn't that big this year so that's why you see that. if he was healthy and motivated, there's no way the record is 60%.
in many of those games, mcgrady was terrible and the Rockets won inspite of Mcgrady just like sometimes they win inspite of Rafer Alston. 39% shooting percentage or worst for Mcgrady for most of the season plus no defense and quitting.
rafer is usually on the floor with one of the stars so it's not like things go through him. yes, that's why we lost 11 games with tracy. usually if he sucked, we lose. in wins, tracy averages 17 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.0 apg, 43% shooting, 45% 3s in losses, tracy averages 13.5ppg, 3.5rpg, 5.0apg, 32% shooting, 21% 3s so we win "in spite" of him? we've lost usually when tracy does bad.
you're talking about 82 game season. i'm talking about games where tracy actually plays. here are the records when tracy is on the court for this team since he's been here. 07-08 46 wins, 20 losses (70%) 06-07 50 wins, 21 losses (70%) 05-06 27 wins, 20 losses (57% - too many injuries) 04-05 49 wins, 29 losses (63%) judging from the past 2 years, we win 70% when tracy plays. this year, we only win 60%. so really, we're winning "in spite" of him?
Tmac1 I don't care what kind of numbers you put up but this season Tmac has been more of a liability then asset. It's just like those dudes that try to spin Yao is clutch when they all know in their hearts he's not.
that's why i said tracy has SUCKED for the most part this year. i've said that more than a few times if you care to read my post. 60% winning with this talent is not acceptable. if tracy plays like he should, at most we should have around 7-8 losses right now. so yes, he's not been that much help this yr b/c we play the same without him. he's supposed to make the team better, not keep it at the same level.
Hey...I am as frustrated as anyone that we don't have tmac or artest...but you can't argue that we are better or worse without him. The guy is an all-star and easily top 25 in the game today. We are better with him. In the long-term we are better when he is in and that is a no brainer. so you iguys can quit argueing about it. Any team would be better with him. Any team would be better with Yao. Any team would be better with Ron. We will be better when all are in lineup
Yao should do what he always does and the fans can only SIT down and watch. I've seen a lot idiotic opinions, but not from zealot fans that expect better when you sit main player down. I say lock this thread and tell everyone to just pray and hope for a good season. Rationalize with your reality: your opinion won't change a thing about the outcome of the Rockets future. All we can speculate or opinionate about is who is a better player and what trades/drafts would possibly help a team. Telling a forum any professional b-ball player should sit down is rediculous. Do you think anyone in the NBA reads this and says, "Wow, I should quit!"
Why does it ALWAYS have to be T-Mac vs. Yao??? Both players are on the Rockets and being that we are Rocket fans we need to support both of them. I can not believe T-Mac quit either but if they win in the play-offs we will both be praising them!!
Let me give you my perspective. I praised Mad Max....loved him the year they won the championship. but Crucified him the year he quit. It is all about the "Now" for me......what are you doing "NOW"..... DD
I cant see ANYTHING wrong with Yao's style of play. Now I have to admit theres been times were. He basically didnt no left from right! But hes still growing as a basketball player.
I don't remember the exact games he sat out but I believe at least like 2-3 of those were against top teams. You could argue we would have lost them anyway or not won the games we did win without him. Boston ring a bell? I don't believe we win that game with Tmac playing.
it's not the first time tmac's out and yao had had plenty of opportunities to step up but failed most of the time. it's beating the dead horse to repeatedly compare how tmac singlehandedly carried the rox without yao vs. how yao played without tmac. tmac's just a more talented player than yao. too sad he's a quitter.
