Thanks. Some messed up stuff there. Wonder if the players arent like alot of the fans thinking just get healthy period. I remember a job I used to work at in a warehouse, we had to pull stuff to be loaded on trucks. When someone missed time your workload went up. We had a guy that missed what seemed like a day a week. We didnt like that guy much. He was a drinker and maybe a pothead though so not the same as being hurt. And was gone about 2 months after he started missing time.
All I care about is that someone takes charge of the team. Morey or Adelman...someone. If you have to bench TMac..then bench him.....bury him on the bench.....but do not trade him for peanuts because he is moping. The team is good enough to compete with a healthy Yao and Artest....let Tmac rot away.....until he decides that this is hurting his image and he needs to get back on the floor and play hard. Just don't panic...make the right move, but not just any move. DD
Are the Rockets fed up with Tracy? There is too much information out there to argue against the theory. 1. Management has had two meeting with Tracy that have been made public. 2. Rafer’s recent quotes. 3. Ron’s quotes. 4. Rick Adelman constantly mentioning that Tracy needs to play, and saying “he has to push through it.” 5. Blinebury’s article. 6. Feigan’s articals. 7. And of course Doc Rocket, who has seems to know things before they happen.
I'm not giving up on Tracy yet. Logically, what are we fighting for in the regular season? Matchups are tough 1-8 in the West. Some of you aren't old enough to remember, but the Rockets also almost traded Hakeem Olajuwon before he led us to two championships. Anyone remember that? I think the principles were Olajuwon for Rony Seikaly . T-mac has shown flashes that he still has it. As his health improves, I think we'll see why we've all loved watching McGrady play for the Rockets. He'll have to own-up to his teammates at some point, but we're not going to get anything of value in a trade, so we might as well try to make the best of where we're at.
Does anyone have a video of this? I missed this game. (Where Tracy's standing half-court while his teammates play 4 on 5)
Hakeem went to Charlie Thomas on a long flight to Japan and they hashed out their differences, essentially Hakeem apologized and they made up. The same thing could happen with Tmac, but he would have to be the bigger man and basically apologize to his teamates for slacking on the court....now, ask yourself an honest question....do you really think Tmac has the same level of character as Dream? I surely don't. DD
Rick says a guy is a loser, so it must be true. Yao misses 60 games and a team startin Alston,Hayes, and a rookie from overseas still wins 50 games is a loser. If he wanted to quit, he had every reason last year. My pops always say believe half of what u see and none of what you hear. I believe adelman is frustrated with his inconsistent lineups. I'd imagine any coach would be, but if you think bucker is gods word or blineburry, then that's your deal. I don't connect believe its as nearly what they say it is. I mean McGrady rubbing off on Artest, give me a break. Alston can drive down the street drunk without headlights and get caught drunk in public, and nothing is said or done. Like I said, I can trade anyone and if your the gm and don't have that mindset, you shouldn't be a gm.
Is there any professional sports writer out there who takes the guy seriously? I'm just saying where there's smoke there's fire.
DD, I know you remember, that was the following season after the rox missed the playoffs. They said he was faking hamstring injury to get another contract, he called management liars. Beginning the next season after missing the playoffs, the Seikly and Rice for Dream was about to go down. They played the sonics for 2 games in Japan and they had their coffee and sit down. The thing is, I don't think they'll make the playoffs just like that 91 eventhough they won some games in a row. Unlike a lot of people on this board, even healthy, I don't think this team can beat La who is the gold standard in the west right now.
The problem, it seems, is that *we* care more about TSlack playing good basketball than TSlack himself.
well name the reporters that have talked about tracy. what feign said is true b/c he follows the team and knows the heartbeat of the team. feign did say there were confrontations with tracy by the players regarding how he should play better - i believe it. feign did say adelman and morey did sit him down to talk about what is best to go forward regarding his health - i believe it but blinebury said tracy influences artest? are you even serious? artest is a man (we see that in how he plays). he's not gonna let another NBA player determine what he does things and what he shouldn't do. artest isn't a FOLLOWER let's say that. when blinebury made those claims, i just know everything is vastly exaggerated. and this is after artest calling tracy out? artest is following tracy's? c'mon guys, let's put some perspective around here.
I agree with you on this. Not even the Knicks are willing to trade talent (Marbury) for nothing. I just hope the Rockets aren't listening to the media too much these days... Regular season and playoffs are completely different. T-Mac has brought it to the playoffs every year.
Leeb, I know for a FACT that dream was faking a hamstring injury......and that the team did seek to suspend him without pay for it. Basically, Dream wanted a new contract, and Patterson said no...and Dream said "Fine, my leg hurts then"... This was back when I was covering the Spurs for KSAT 12 in San Antonio.... They did come back together, and Hakeem went on to bigger and better things. Could something like that happen with Tmac....sure......but I don't think he has the character of Dream.
Go check out the All Star voting thread where Cheryl Miller disses McGrady. Go check out the Bucher audio thread where Bucher calls McGrady a loser. So far as Artest goes what's important to me is that he called out McGrady in public. Yeah, Artest is a man and he called McGrady a wuss in public. Does that sound like a healthy locker room to anybody?
well tracy is a loser. he hasn't won in the playoffs and i'm sure everybody knows that. cheryl miller is right: tracy doesn't belong in the all-star game this year. but fran said tracy is influencing artest. you believe that?
I believe Fran believes it. I believe Fran is a lot closer to the situation than you or I. I believe something is causing Artest to go off reservation on the offense. DD
The Knicks are not willing to trade the expiring contract. These are not the Knixies of Zekesie. What I am curious about is whether the media is leading the charge v TMac or following the lead of a 'controlling' front office and/or coaching staff.
That depends on what you mean by "influence". I could see Artest looking around the Rockets locker room and thinking "Do I really want to be here next year if I want to win a championship?"
