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The reason behind the Celtics Slump

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by eveluvsrox, Jan 11, 2009.

  1. eveluvsrox

    eveluvsrox Member

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    found this

    KG acting like a biatch

    With so many suggesting that the Celtics are physically worn, here’s something else to consider: How about emotionally exhausted? This is the blessing and curse of KG. He’s a dervish of barking and bickering, yelling at everyone and no one. Night after night, he works himself into a frenzy to play the game. He seldom relaxes on the court, on the charters. Sometimes, he’ll just sit up wired on long flights home. If he doesn’t sleep, Doc Rivers once said, no one sleeps.

    This has trickled down on the team, too. Pierce is incorrigible on the court. No one talks like him. Opponents have grown angry over the way that even the marginal Celtics seem so emboldened to behave this way, too. All in all, emotion fueled a ferocity for these Celtics, but it’s hard to believe that passion could sustain itself in the long run.

    “If you keep punching your gas pedal as hard as you can, all the time, eventually you’re going to run out of gas,” one rival NBA general manager said. “You can only do that hype and talking for so long. You have to maintain a pace and a certain emotional level to stay up there for a long time. You can’t scream non-stop forever.”

    More and more, the Celtics are dependent on Garnett, Pierce and Allen to carry them. Rajon Rondo has struggled lately. The Celtics are susceptible to bigger frontlines. The bench is killing them. They need help, but there’s little on the way. As history’s shown, Stephon Marbury’s arrival destroys basketball franchises. This has been incredible. The mere suggestion of Starbury has blown up Boston. Truth be told, Marbury will probably never be freed in New York.


    its more to read

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-celtics011009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
     
  2. Tom Bombadillo

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    Nonononononononononono..................


    KG is far, far, far from the problem...........




    Fact is, they are human, just wait, they will be a on a fat winning streak again before it is over...
     
  3. kmoney

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    i think the loss of posey hurt the team way more than people realize

    that and karma is kicking kg in the butt for taunting and illegal picks on smaller guys :cool:
     
  4. ayears

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    many reasons, one of the most significant one: Allen, Pierce's defense lapse(two old legs)
     
  5. King1

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    I'll preface this by saying absolutely detest KG. I can't stand him, but he is far from the problem. He gives 110% everytime he touches the court. Whether it be in practice, working out, or in a game. He demands the same from his teammates. Do you think TMac or Artest would be pulling this crap if KG was on our team? Hell no.

    It's already been correctly mentioned by a few posters in this thread. Their bench is week, they really miss James Posey, and Pierce looks a lot older on the court. I disagree about Allen only because his role was never to be a defensive stopper. He is their shooter. They have definitely lost their defensive presence though and their scoring is way down.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
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    Quick...Tmac for KG

    or

    Tmac for Allen

    or

    Tmac for Pierce

    Tmac for.....Maloney..

    ;)
    DD
     
  7. adoo

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    in summary, Celtics' lack of depth has reared its ugly head.

    the fact that the top 3 are all > 32 years old, each w > 11 yrs of wear and tear in the NBA, only accentuates this weakness.
     
  8. Spacemoth

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    They had their streak because the Big 3 became the Big 4 for a little while. Now that Rondo is back to earth they are feeling the ill effects of no depth at the wing and tired legs from the stars. Pretty simple analysis. They can win it all again if Rondo improves his game once more.
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    "More and more, the Celtics are dependent on Garnett, Pierce and Allen to carry them. Rajon Rondo has struggled lately. The Celtics are susceptible to bigger frontlines. The bench is killing them."

    So it has nothing to do with Garnett working too hard then. The article just contradicted itself.
     
  10. conquistador#11

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    the winning streak took a lot out of them. so not everything is poooooosssssiiibbbblllle.
     
  11. Ismail

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    That it did. I especially love the "the Celtics are dependent on Garnett, Pierce, and Allen to carry them," you know, that's not something a Big 3 should be doing by any means. 3 all-stars carrying a team?! What a preposterous idea. The Celtics' problem is that their perimeter defense phases in and out (at least from what I've seen), and that exploits their lack of size.

    Boston ought to try bringing one of them off the bench, I'd probably say Ray Allen. The Rockets and Spurs do this, and it's brought success to the Spurs before, and the Rockets have shown potential with it. I know they're the defending champs, but I am not sure this was just a mid-season slump; something has to change in order for them to start dominating again.

    Dare I say it, Cleveland will come out of the East a lot better than they did last time.
     
  12. mozart123

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    well they won tonight but who what a choke job by Garnett and Glen Davis

    3-16 and 1-12 respectively.

    They needed a spectacular game from Allen to hold off the Raptors.
     
  13. leebigez

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    They miss posey and there is a reason why cd traded for clyde in the repeat yr. When you have a older team, you need freshness because of the long season.The hunger is different too.
     
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    Celtics move aside, let the Rockets Glide!
     
  15. eveluvsrox

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    and then...............




    the injury bug stirkes them too. ;) :D
     
  16. roslolian

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    It's 70% James Posey 20% lack of a true post player and 10% everything else (fatigue, kg karma etc). James Posey is quite frankly a rich man's Battier and probably as close to a star player a role player will ever be. He plays tough defense and can score consistently. He's also a really solid locker room guy.

    More importantly he gave the Celt's bench some needed firepower. When he subbed in for either Pierce or Allen there was never really that big of a dropoff in the talent level of the team. Considering the Celt's don't really have a true post player (KG can play in the post but usually settles for jumpshots even in crunch time), the Celts relied on their perimeter defense and scoring to win most games last year. This year without Posey the perimeter talent just hasn't been the same. My guess is the whipping at the hands of the Lakers sent them over the edge lol. Winning cures all ills but unfortunately losing does the exact opposite. Celts are definitely in danger of imploding right now.

    I'd definitely do a KG or Pierce for Tmac since the talent level would basically even out and those two guys are healthier...maybe even a Rondo and Allen if they take Alston off our hands as well. Do you think Ainge will bite? :p Tmac IS an expiring contract after all, and he's not exactly chopped liver at the moment either...
     
  17. JeopardE

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    I don't see the contradiction. It's just a complementary point. The implication is that the Celtics were never really as good as their 26-2 (was it?) start suggested, and KG's "uber-intensity" eventually drained everyone out, including KG himself. When you start getting worn down, and eventually run out of gas, your real weaknesses start to show -- like Rondo can't shoot, your bench is missing James Posey and Eddie House sucks as a PG, etc. etc. How long ago was it that people were talking about Rajon Rondo being an All-Star? All these weaknesses were masked because everyone was playing at such a high level for so long.
     
  18. ambrose86

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    hey eveluvsrox,

    rmb how we winds up in a slump as well after the 22 game win streak?
    I think it is the result of arenaline being used up too much during the streak. They'll be fine..
     
  19. ThaShark316_28

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    19 wins in a row...then 3-7 since....they are still hungover from the streak...BUT, they'll snap out of it, since its alot of season left.
     
  20. tiger0330

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    BS article, if he wrote this 3 weeks ago, it would be KG drives the Celtics bus driving them to 19 game win streak. Like a game an NBA season is a series of good and bad runs, the Celtics are just not scoring like they did in their winning streak. Reminds me of the playoffs last year when Ray Allen shot poorly against the Hawks and Cavs and the Celts took both series to 7 games, their shots will start falling again and they'll win again.
     

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