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What the Management / Ownership Must do regarding T-Mac

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JVG>Adelman, Jan 3, 2009.

  1. kkkpopov

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    I have no personal against T-MAC and don't want to criticize him because of a bad night-before game,i always treat him as our leader and hope him can take us further.Unfortunately,he didn't and not seem to ,so i think he is not worthy of the 21million compared with the 8million RON, that's simple
     
  2. mbiker

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    I disagree with letting him come back in a month or two. Here are my predictions if we allow him to not take the regular season seriously:

    The Rockets will become an eighth seed because a key member of the offense did not participate in a certain percentage of the games. While this is happening, the remaining Rocket players will have learned how to play as a team, building strong chemistry by following Rick’s offense. However, when Tracy returns the chemistry that was built during his 2 months off, as well as the offense will change. This is because Tracy has to have the ball to be affective. He never bought in to RA’s system. You cannot change systems right before the playoffs and be affective.

    At this point you have entered the playoffs with an out of shape player that demands the ball. What’s going to happen is what has happened during Tracy’s whole career. He will score a lot of points at a low field goal percentage, while the rest of the team is ineffective. Fans with low basketball IQ’s will see his stats and think that he played great while everyone else choked, not understanding what really happened.

    At this point, you have two choices. You either play him and make him follow the RA offensive plan ,or trade him. I vote for the later.
     
  3. AntiSonic

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    BINGO.
     
  4. killer instinct

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    At this point TMac, Alston and Head for Starbury and Q Rich.

    See the mind games portion of my post in the RAdelman and Clyde thread

    Get him off of the books, NY can enamor themselves or hammer him worse in the press every day.
     
  5. AntiSonic

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    That's a good point. If Tracy thinks he gets it bad here, he really ought to talk to Patrick Ewing.
     
  6. professorjay

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    I agree w/ most of this. BUT IMHO, I don't see any way we can win a championship in the next 2 years w/ a Tmac trade. I don't think we can be a better playoff team. I really hope I'm wrong.

    So we have to make best with what we have. Last year when Tmac was out, the rest of the team found their chemistry, Tmac saw what he needed to do to fit back in, and we played pretty good basketball after the all star break. I think this is our only shot. We can't count on an incredible 22 game winning streak...I can only hope they can find that chemistry again and we're healthy.
     
  7. DontMessWithUT

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    send him to Mempis. They'll do any trade with us! :p
     
  8. BMoney

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    Awesome and original insight! Nobody has posted anything remotely like this incredibly intuitive thread! You, sir, threw down the gauntlet to Tracy McGrady and the Houston Rockets management like nobody ever has before! It was JVG>Adelman who finally said "enough!" and voiced an opinion so controversial on clutchfans.net that the whole basketball world waits on bated breath for the response. Only you had the courage to say the McGrady sux! Yeah you!
     
  9. Yao4REAL

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    Why sit him when you can trade him?? This thread is useless.
     
  10. adoo

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    ttrading "Woe-is-me" is an viable option, one that Rox need to explore.
    • Rox to give up Rafer, Woe-is-me and matching salaries for Marbury
     
  11. t-mac4bigmac

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    Like most of you, I'm also disliking Tmac's mindset and effort on the court lately.
    But the truth is this: The Rockets need a healthy, motivated Tracy McGrady to win.

    Since Tracy came back from resting his body on Dec. 12, his stats look like this:
    In Wins (6 games):
    17.3 pts.
    7.6 ast.
    6.5 rbs.

    In Losses (5 games):
    10.6 pts.
    4.4 ast.
    3.8 rbs.

    Also from these stats, we see that Tmac has had 6 good games and 5 bad games since he came back. So its not like Tmac has completely quit on this team, since he has played some very good games for us. He has however taken some games off, which is where we start to question his commitment to the team on a nightly basis.

    But there's a truth in the numbers. When Tmac plays well, the Rockets also play well. So, IMO there's no sense in trading or benching him. We just have to hope that Tmac himself straightens everything out and is able to find some better consistency on the court night in and night out.
     
  12. i3artow i3aller

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    He's still the best player on this team when healthy. That can't be chalked up to "Oh well he was born with it," either. He's simply not right out there on the court and I for one don't mind how bad he looks as long as he's healthy when we need him most.
    Thank goodness CLutchfans doesn't run the Rockets.
     
  13. Yodels

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    I think the fans are emotional. Just let McGrady rest for 6-8 weeks. The roster has enough talent to make the playoffs. By then habits can be gained by the other players to play without him. It takes many weeks for a team to develop habits. McGrady can then come back and blend in.

    I think the key to McGrady is also having Battier to balance his game. They both need to be themselves again before we go to the next level.
     
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    The guy's decided he's not going to play in one game out of every back to back. When was the last time you heard of anything like that?

    The Rockets need to move him because he is rapidly moving into the "cancer" stage, if he's not there already.

    One more thing: it's not just Clutchfans. Feigen and Blinebury at the Chronicle ripped T-Mac a new one.
     
  15. deeperblue

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    It is so damn hard for some die-hard T-Mac fans to realize what you said.

    For a lot of others, they don't understand what "cut loss" means.

     
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    I don't normally post topics on this board and i also know that when there is rumors and such to post a link, but from what i read on ESPN board in the comments part in power rankings supposely the management and McGrady have had more then just talks. Now i really don't think this could be true, but it was up to the Thunder to make the deal and yes Kevin Durant name was mentioned.

    I think it's bizarre to be honest. More power to the staff if they can pull it off, however i find it far fetched what is your thoughts?

    And to be honest why would they not atleast try to make a deal for someone like Durant if they are trying to improve the team?
     
  17. ibm

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    how is it possible? the $ is too far away.
     
  18. fmp087

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    Which season are you watching. We're 21-14, if I'm not mistaken, nearly halfway through the season.
     
  19. badgerfan

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    1) Bench him.
    2) Trade him.

    Find somebody else who's desperate and who's willing to gamble that McGrady might blossom with a change in scenery. Scoop up their young talent/prospects.
     

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