Ok ok im dreaming, or am I. This year we pulled off a great trade with the New Jersey Nets to get phenom Eddie Griffin. I feel if he plays to his full potential he will be next Tim Duncan. Now this year we have the #5 pick in the draft if all goes as it should. Qyntel Woods I say he has a 60% chance of being there when were up to pick. I know itll be a nobrainer to pick him. So if we get him We all know hes being compared to Tracy McGrady. Now when Francis hits his prime Griffin will be atleast a year or two from his prime and Woods will be in about his 3rd or 4th year in the NBA. If hes close to his potential the NBA is in trouble because our 3 man Combo would surpass this years Kobe-Shaq Combo. Cus we will still have Mo Taylor-Cat-and Moochie as back ups rather than LAKERS 01-02 (FOX,Walker, and Horry) We would have the deepest team and The juggernaught of juggernaughts offence. Tell me what you all think. It wouldnt exactly be Stevie, Duncan, and Tmac but it would be pretty damn close. What do you all think!
It would take a long shot for anyone to turn into someone else. Why don't you just get excited with having Francis, Griffin, and whoever. Don't see them as others because they make their own mold in the league. Besides, what if they turn out to be better than what you hope for?
The Mavericks and the Kings are the 2 deepest teams in the league.... these 2 teams are sticking around for a long time, and while francis is possibly the best player or near best on the 3 teams griffin wont match up to dirk or webber and woods may be good but wont be able to play against the likes of finley or peja... the Rocks would definately have a strong team but wouldnt be the deepest in the league and prob wont have enough to contend.
I'm sorry but Griffin is no Duncan and will prolly never be that good; no post game and his shooting pct in college and in the pros has been frightening. He has to become comfortable with the mid-range jumper and playing offense around the key before he's even comperable to Duncan, offensively. Defensively...well he can block shots and grab some boards. He's not going to shut down a solid opposing big man at this point in his career. He has an enourmous amount of work to do to become a great player let alone a franchise player. Fortunately, all what he needs to add to his game is teachable. I hope he doesn't obsess with just becoming stronger. He needs to work on a lot of aspects of his game. Hopefully he's a fairly hard worker and a quick learner.
well, duncan right now is probably the best player in the game, or minimum top 3, so to compare eddie to him is unfair to both players. it's also ridiculous to say eddie will never be as good as duncan. while he might not be the same type player(time will tell), a look at his talent shows he could probably reach that level of play. remember this kid is only nineteen. when duncan came out of college he was as nba ready as anyone in the history of the game, you throw him out there one year removed from high school and his numbers would be very similar to eddie's.
Exactly, im not saying they are going to be T-Mac and Duncan clones but their games might resemble them. Griff has unlimited potential, and so will Woods
Tim Duncan shot 54.5 pct from the field his freshman year. Eddie shot 44.3%. That's a huge difference. Duncan was timid and growing his freshman year and exploded his spohmore season. Griffen jacked up more shots per game his freshman year than Duncan did his senior season. That's scary bad. Here's a comparision between their freshman stats: <pre><FONT SIZE=4> Duncan Griffin MinPG 30.2 32.3 FG % 54.5 44.3 PPG 9.8 18.5 REB 9.6 11.4 BlkPG 3.8 4.7</pre></fontsize> The way I see it, Griffen has as much ability as Duncan but has a very different game. He just needs to put it all together and that's far from a guarantee. Duncan's the real deal. Hopefully EG will be as well.
Part of the problem is the Rockets are grooming him to be a Matt Bullard 3 point shooter, either almost everyone on our team just sucks other than Francis and Cuttino, or everyone else is just good for jump shooting, based on our offensive schemes.
Did anyone pay attention to Tim Duncan when he was 19? Did we even hear of him? I asked this to get everyone to understand that Griffin is 3 years behind where Tim Duncan was when he came into the league and overall developmentally about 5 years behind him. Everyone would agree that there were big question marks on Tim Duncan at 21, until he began and finished his senior year...So, any talk that Eddie is no Duncan and will not be is absurd. Not equally, but still a little crazy, is to say Griffin will be Duncan as well. For the most part, we are all oficianados on this board and I posed the question because we know the answer......Do you know how much b-ball development can happen in 3 years, 5 years? Let's give Eddie 3 years, just as we did guys like Tracy McGrady (averaged 7 points, 9 points, 15 points, 24pts, 27pts in his five years), Jermain O'Neal (averaged 4, 4, 2, 3, 12 in his first five years) and others coming into the league at 18 and 19. Patience is the key! Chill out on judging Eddie right now because this guy averaged 9 points and almost 2 blocks in his first year int he league......development kids, development!!!
Not trying to be funny, but Duncan was 16 when he entered WF. Remember he just made 26 or will be but he entered the league in 97. He was a 20yr old rookie after 4 yrs of college ball,so basically you're comparing a 18 yrold griffin to a 16yr old duncan. By the next yr, Duncan was pretty damn good and by his sr yr he was 20pts 16rebs. Griffin needs to get confortable with back to the basket and working 15ft and in. I blame Rudy and company for running a pnr 24ft from the basket.
I think it's fair to say we AT THE VERY LEAST have a Rasheed Wallace caliber player in Griffin. Woods, I think, will become better than T-Mac. A friend of mine showed me a game he played. He's got "it". I think it's fair to say we'd be contending for first in 3 years assuming we pick Woods and keep Steve, Cat, and Eddie.
Hey you forgot Jordan!!! Didn't Rudy compare Mobley to Jordan? So we have: Francis, Duncan, McGrady, and Micheal Jordan!!!! Wow coudn't we be more pathetic?
Can we all be "realists" for just a minute. Some kid is going to be just as good/better than Tmac? Griffin is going to be just as good as Duncan? Can we just take the "wait and see" approach? And if Griffin is going to become a Duncan caliber player, it sure as hell won't be with the Rockets.........as long as we continue to run the same offensive sets. You know, the ISO.
I see Eddie as more of a Raheed Wallace type of player. You know eddie punched out a teammate in college.
Greg, I liked the stat comparison, and your take on what it means. So Duncan was 2 years younger? Wow! Griffin is going to be a great player, but Duncan is a prodigy. Since our tank job rivals S. A.'s in it's artistry, maybe we'll as rewarded as they were and have Griff as well. May justice prevail!
