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Have the Rockets ever had a good last play this year?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Northside Storm, Dec 29, 2008.

  1. Northside Storm

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    This is where I think the coach should earn his money. This is where you KNOW the coach is behind the action and if he's anywhere near competent, he has a good diagram ready. I really like Adelman and I have defended him on other choices, but this is indefensible. Have we EVER had a good last play this year? I think back, and all the clutch shots were basically "get the ball to Yao and pray". Against Minny that worked. Against Portland it worked too, even though the ball was given to Yao in a near-impossible position and it was a near-miracle that he made that 15-footer while being hacked and I'm only thinking about these last plays because WE ACTUALLY GOT A SCORE ON THOSE, so I'm 100% sure there have been other instances of failure like the Wizards game today.

    Today was just the boiling point. You give it to Yao with 3 seconds on the clock and don't even bother to ISO him so at least he only has ONE guy on him. Instead, Battier passed the ball so close that there was an instant double and Artest was still on the same f****** side! (along with his defender) Really, was the best shot we could get a fading jumpshot from Yao with two guys on him and one guy rushing forward? I don't even blame him for missing, he was put in a f****** impossible situation. 2 seconds left, everyone on the court knows he's putting it up. You could argue inside-out, but with 8 seconds on the clock? yeah ok, unless Ricky A has a different definition of time then the rest of us, it does NOT take 8 seconds for Yao to get position, then the pass and then the kickout for the jumpshot.

    I mean think of the alternatives! This is supposed to be a motion offense, and if we can't implement that on a SHOT WE NEED TO WIN THE GAME...

    Hell, I'm a nobody, an armchair GM and I was even thinking up ideas before Yao shot the ball...yessh yessh yessh.

    Battier inbounds the ball to Artest, cuts to the basket after Yao sets a flare pick on the side. Artest dumps it into Battier, score.

    Yao on the high post, McGrady cuts through the basket area, Battier inbounds to Alston, Artest sets a flare pick as McGrady is running to the other side and McGrady should get an open 20-footer. I'd say score, but judging by the rest of the game, that's like a 60% score.

    Battier inbounds the ball to Artest. Yao sets the high pick and roll, McGrady and Alston run around on the other side of the court, Battier sets himself on the corner. Artest either takes the three or dumps it to a penetrating Yao OR as a last resort, passes it to Battier for the three.

    I mean, come on, it's not that hard. I'm not saying these would work 100%, but if Rick Adelman can only come up with "dump to Yao" with the weapons on this team and I can come up with like 3 different alternatives...*******, something is wrong.

    We're left with a couple of truths we have to swallow about our coach, each one unpleasant in their own way.

    Either a) Adelman is a complete r****d at diagrammed plays, which just spells failure in the playoffs and thankfully, just some games in the regular season.
    b) The players are not listening to Adelman at all and running their own plays which spells failure in the regular season and playoffs.
    c) Adelman is letting the players play without a diagrammed plan, something I could see his "laissez-faire" attitude embracing. That should be grounds for a firing if this is true (I doubt it, but the way things looked...)
    d) The Yao Ming shot resulted from a broken play, which means a), because it was poorly planned but also means b) at the same time because either Adelman has no contingency plans or players just panic and give it to Yao.

    I have to say however, the blame doesn't just lie on him. What I saw from the starters was sickening especially Yao and Mac. At one point it was just comical, especially Yao. They'd repost Yao like three times and he'd refuse to shoot. It was like he was scared that he'd be the one responsible for the loss. If this is how the "Big Three" respond to pressure, then wow, might as well just give up already.
     
  2. aleezy2011

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    i remember tmac sucking in the D kicking it back out to Steve novak LAST year..
     
  3. Northside Storm

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    Lol, actually, I kinda limited it to this year since I also remembered that...but also because I kinda gave some slack to Adelman since he was getting used to the roster and all that. But it seems to be regressing for some reason...despite his increased familiarity with the team...this year, I really can't think of one good last play. Maybe something is slipping my mind, but really, I dread last plays now. Every time, the Rockets either get a bad shot to roll in or the bad shot does what it's supposed to do and clunks out of the basket.
     
  4. AggieRocketFan96

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    Good post. You put into words what I've been feeling all season long. Rockets problem is definently a combination of questionable coaching, lack of intensity from most of the players, seemingly unwillingness to match the offensive philosophy with the type of players on the roster, the coach's bull-headedness to play Rafer over Brooks in key/clutch/critical 4th quarters...of all the high expectations of the Rockets the past few years, this is by far the most disappointing. Totally maddening!
     
  5. DudeWah

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    Great points
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    Not to mention bringing our awesome starters back in, even though our second unit brought us back into the game. Terrific, "clutch" coaching by the A-man
     
  6. TmacsRockets

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    I don't think this team has ever had a good last play. That is what we need to work on for sure.
     
  7. J.Will.Xu

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    Damn,I was thinking about the same thing,if Yao didn't wanna post up and shoot the ******* ball,just pass the ball to him and play the inside-out.

    8 seconds left on the clock and we just couldn't come up a good play on the final second.What a shame!

    Before Shane inbounded the ball,I was like feeding Yao the ball and pass it out to the perimeter shooter who's wide open on the other side.

    Well,somebody might point out that the best way to score on the final possession is to get to the basket,that's the safest option to tie the game.If I were the coach,I woulda stick to the 3 point shooter to hit the game winner.

    P.S. Last time a Rocket who hit a impressive buzzerbeater to win the game was Steve Novak's 3 to keep our 22-game winning streak alive.How sweet it was.
     
  8. agentkirb87

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    That was a fine last play. Yao should be able to make that shot, he's done it before.

    The new year is coming up, this was when we started getting hot last season. So here's hoping *crosses fingers*.
     
  9. Northside Storm

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    A fine last play...

    7'6 man fading away from about 18 feet out, two guys on him with 3 seconds left.

    Even if that goes in, when you look back, that has to have been the most inefficient shot the Rockets could have gotten from that last play. Considering how cold Yao was on his jumpshots just makes it worse. I'd have been more comfortable with a contested three by Artest, something the Rockets had right from the beginning of the play. Hell, pretty much ANYTHING would be better then that shot.
     
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    Yeah, because your most predictable play is totally fine. Scoring while triple teamed is not the most efficient way possible.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    He had one guy on him, shot a wide open 5 foot shot basically and missed it, I have no issue with the last shot.

    I have an issue with the guys not playing hard, with Artest choking on 3 free throws before the half....with Tmac loafing, with Yao not playing to his own height, with Rafer sucking as usual, with Scola getting torched, with Adelman not playing Artest on Jamison earlier.

    Just so much....this was a complete team failure from the coaching staff on down to the players...they all sucked.

    DD
     
  12. A_3PO

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    Great post! Our "Hall of Fame" coach has made a lot of bad decisions with rotation minutes and play calling. The fact he's won 8 million games as an NBA coach doesn't cover that up. This "loyalty" to his starters is just plain stupid and his cowardice in not holding players accountable is destroying the team. Te injuries don't take him off the hook. I was disgusted at his remarks after the game when he basically said he just wants the starters to finish the game no matter what.
     
  13. comehere2

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    i like your post.


    the same question i ask many times before.
     
  14. Northside Storm

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    Battier's man was right there, since Battier passed the ball by about 5 inches to Yao. Yao was 2-11 on jumpshots this game. It may not have been 18 feet but it sure as hell wasn't 5 feet either...his feet were out of the paint and Yahoo pegs it around 12-13 feet away and he was fading away. That's just a poor shot in my opinion.

    I have to agree with the rest of your post though. I don't think I've ever seen a game like this where the entire team just plain sucked.
     
  15. Shaud

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    Technically the Portland game.
     
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    You say there were two guys on him, but when he's fading away it might as well be an uncontested shot. Thats why Adelman went to it... because he knew that no matter how they guarded it, it would basically be an open shot. You can block it from behind, but thats about it.
     
  17. WhoMikeJames

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    Look what JVG did! He didn't even call a timeout, and a great play resulted.

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  18. Northside Storm

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    I mentioned that in my post, but I don't consider that a good play. Are you really going to count on Yao Ming making tough fade away jumpshots while getting fouled on the arm? If the Rockets could, they wouldn't need a coach.
     
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    Then my question is, Why was Landry, and then later, Battier in there??
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    He took out his second most efficient player, Luis Scola for no reason. Last I checked, he's a starter.
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    I just think that it's a guarantee that the Big Three will be in (rightfully so), and the other two finishers should be decided by the game. The decision between Landry, Scola, or Battier, and Brooks or Alston, should be dictated by their performance for that game.
     
  20. Shaud

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    My bad I rushed through the post, I agree that wasn't really a great drawn up play, but Yao can hit the shot he shot today he just missed it. Our last play shots would help if someone could penetrate and finish in the paint.

    Rafer - Well his teardrop is about inconsistent as it gets.

    T-mac - Has trouble finishing due to lack of strength in his knee.

    Artest- Usually driving to the hole he will need a bailout foul call, he's been inconsistent finishing.

    Aaron Brooks - Brooks has the best chance on the team at creating by driving to the hole. He did it earlier and got his shocked block.

    If we had better finishers, I think Adelman would draw up a better play. Brooks is out best shot but he's small but maybe we should see what he can do in that situation, but then again he was 0-4 tonight.
     

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