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Why can't the decision makers of college and the NFL get it right?

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by JBIIRockets, Dec 29, 2008.

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  1. JBIIRockets

    JBIIRockets Member

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    We all know college football is stupid. No playoff, no legit champion in most years. (I am so glad Texas' 2005 championship is a rare college football championship that no sensible person can dispute.)

    As for the the NFL, I was looking at the playoff schedule for the wildcard games this weekend and came away perplexed. Can someone justify why it is right to have the 12 win Colts play at the 8 win Chargers? That doesn't make sense. Same can be said for the 11 win Falcons having to play at the 9 win Cardinals.

    I guess when determining seeding (in the NFL), common sense does not prevail.
    Winning a division in the NFL should only mean a guaranteed playoff spot, not a home game against a 12 win team.

    Do the decision-makers of the BCS and the NFL have their heads up their asses? Are they so dumb that they can't even come up with a fair way to best determine it's champion.......going by BEST record!!!! It's not that complicated. Divisions are necessary in the NFL since teams play each other twice, but they hold too much weight when it comes to playoff seeding.

    The NFL could stand to learn from the NBA.

    12 win Colts play at the 8 win Chargers. That's not right.
     
    #1 JBIIRockets, Dec 29, 2008
  2. Mr. Mooch

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    Yes...The NBA -- Where More than Half the League Makes the Playoffs and a Sub-.500 Team has a Legitimate Shot to Win the Championship and Weaker Teams in a Weaker Conference Get in the Playoffs when near 50-Win Teams Don't Happens

    I for one am happy to see New England out of the playoffs. Why? Because San Diego is playing better than them right now. Every team in the AFC is playing at their best. If the Colts are so good they'll prove it this weekend, regardless of venue.
     
    #2 Mr. Mooch, Dec 29, 2008
  3. JBIIRockets

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    This sounds like a comment a BCS backer would make.
     
    #3 JBIIRockets, Dec 29, 2008
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    I used to think the NFL had the best playoff system. But now, since there are 8 divisions instead of 6, they need to tweak it again. Pretty effed up that two 8-8 teams are in while an 11-5 and 9-7 team are out.
     
    #4 ima_drummer2k, Dec 29, 2008
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    This little statement makes the rest of your arguments moot.

    The NBA's playoff setup is utterly r****ded.
     
    #5 rhadamanthus, Dec 29, 2008
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    Other than the quantity of teams allowed in the NBA playoffs, why is it r****ded?
     
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    The bizarre seeding with division winners getting the top spots regardless of record and the east-west divider come to mind.
     
    #7 rhadamanthus, Dec 29, 2008
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    That's messed up as well. like when the 3rd seeded Nuggets (division winner) started on the road at the 6th seeded Clippers in the 2006 playoffs. Those two teams should have never been matched up to play each other.

    The NBA could fix the problem by only having division winners be guaranteed a playoff spot, but nothing else.

    I just believe that the people who decide the playoff seeding in the NFL, NBA and MLB are morons.
     
    #8 JBIIRockets, Dec 29, 2008
  9. Major

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    Unlike the NBA, NFL teams have very different schedules. The Chargers and the Colts play a whole different set of teams, and it's possible (though not the case this year) that the 8-8 team played a much more brutal schedule than the 12-4 team. It's the same as MLB - they also have an unbalanced schedule, and the Wildcard, no matter their record, will not have homefield advantage. It also serves to make the division races more important and interesting.

    In the NBA, all teams in a conference play a pretty similar schedule, so that's not as much of an issue.
     
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    Not when it's the Pats and Girls.
     
    #10 Asian Sensation, Dec 29, 2008
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    Hee hee! :D
     
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    Why do you said that? New England was playing very well the last games.
     
    #12 david_rocket, Dec 30, 2008
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    Because unlike the NBA, NFL teams in the different divisions play very different schedules. For example, New England might be 11-5, but they played 7 games against opponets who finished with a sub .500 record: Kansas City, San Francisco, Buffalo x2, St. Louis, Seattle, and Oakland. They went 7 - 0 in those games

    By comparison, the 8-8 Charges played 5 games where their opponet had a sub .500 record: 2x Oakland, 2x Kansas City, and Buffalo. They were 4-1 in those games and they also beat New England along the way. Because you can't play every team in the NFL, at the way the schedules are worked out as follows:


    Each team in a division will play the four teams in another division within their conference. For example, in 2008 each team in the NFC North will play each team in the NFC South. This is on a rotating schedule every 3 years. That's another 4 games.

    Each team in a division will play the four teams in a division in the other conference.
    In 2008, each team in the NFC North will play each team in the AFC South. This is on a 4-year rotating schedule. That's another 4 games.

    The final 2 games are based on record. These games will match a first-place team against the first-place teams in the two same-conference divisions the team is not scheduled to play that season. The second-place, third-place, and fourth-place teams in a conference will be matched in the same way each year.

    Because the teams in the same division plays the most similar schedule, you should reward the best team in that division for doing the most from a given schedule.
     
    #13 wizkid83, Dec 30, 2008
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