1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Did Deron Williams blowing by Rafer...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BrooksBall, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. BrooksBall

    BrooksBall Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    20,568
    Likes Received:
    256
    I think another factor that may contribute to Adelman delaying "the changing of the guards" longer than with Scola over Hayes is the personalities of the players.

    Hayes is a young, undrafted one-dimensional player that is just thankful to be in the league. Hayes doesn't go to bed every night thinking he's a starting caliber PF. He may dream it quietly but he knows he's a role player in the end.

    Rafer, on the other hand, is an explosive, hot-headed, Type A veteran that feels entitled to start as an NBA PG.

    Adelman is probably treating this situation more delicately than he did when moving Hayes to a reserve role. He doesn't want to disrupt whatever semblance of chemistry this team has and he is worried Rafer won't handle the situation well.

    Confidence is usually a good thing but Rafer takes it to a whole different level. I really believe that he thinks he's an elite PG. He probably even thinks he's a good shooter despite the 8-year shooting slump.
     
  2. got em COACH

    got em COACH Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2008
    Messages:
    3,253
    Likes Received:
    1,090
    If rafer had pass the ball out to a better percentage shooters on the FT line instead of holding on to the ball we would have never be in this double over time situation. BUT NOOOO he had to hold on to the ball so he can get some freebies to make his statistic look decent on paper. The game just went sour once he got back in the 4th qt crunch time.
     
  3. BrooksBall

    BrooksBall Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    20,568
    Likes Received:
    256
    I would be.

    If Rafer wasn't the least efficient scorer of all starting PGs in the league season after season, then I may stop complaining. Well, as long as he's not the 2nd worst or 3rd worst or 4th worst... crap, I just want something at least close to average.
     
  4. DudeWah

    DudeWah Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    9,643
    Likes Received:
    3,523
    <br>
    Can't upset a Diva ;)
     
  5. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,823
    Likes Received:
    794
    They wouldnt do it i dont think, but NJ has what the rox need, a big and a backup pg. They should ask nj for boone and dooling for rafer and hayes or head. theyre loading up for 2010 and the rox want to win now, but also playing for 2010. Rafer goes home and backs up harris we get a backup pg in dooling who actually attacks the basket and has played with a big in shaq and a big in boone who can backup up yao and possibly play some 4 also.
     
  6. BrooksBall

    BrooksBall Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    20,568
    Likes Received:
    256
    Imagine if Rafer does get traded and we were playing against the team he got traded to.

    What would you be thinking about as he dribbled the ball up the court?

    I'd be screaming "Let him shoot! Don't guard him!"

    When he got into the paint, I'd be joyous thinking "Here comes a floater!"
     
  7. knickstorm

    knickstorm Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,712
    Likes Received:
    74
    errr....adelman was afraid to tell the hot headed steve francis he wasnt gonna play last year or this year..............

    Brooks sucked tonight.........he threw up more garbage shots than rafer usually does.......he went 3-9.........one shot was a legit 3, the other 2 were just lucky throw it at the hoop buckets.

    face it.......brooks is a good pg on a team where you need him to score ala New Jersey nets........on this team he's best served as a backup.
     
  8. DudeWah

    DudeWah Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    9,643
    Likes Received:
    3,523
    <br>
    I'd probably enjoy his "spectacular defense" the most as Aaron Brooks drove past him time and time again
     
  9. waelhakmeh

    waelhakmeh Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2002
    Messages:
    456
    Likes Received:
    0
    you could help this board by not posting... :rolleyes:

    [insert initials here to document narcissism] " :D "

    also, cut and paste this opinion 10X in case someone misses my opinion the 1st 9 times
     
  10. v3.0

    v3.0 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2005
    Messages:
    16,203
    Likes Received:
    931
    Who do you think you are? DD?

    Sheez!!!


    .....

    ....

    ...
     
  11. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    How many 1-11, 2-12, 3-13 nights do we have to endure before this nonsense is put to an end. Anyone who says Brooks can never be a Tony Parker has clearly never watched both of them play. This kid so good and has so much more he can learn. He needs a chance.
     
  12. ParaSolid

    ParaSolid Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Messages:
    4,616
    Likes Received:
    1,753
    Brooksball, if AB starts and Rafer moves to the bench, we're going to see even more Rafer-trying-to-be-a-dominant-offensive-force games with the freedom he's going to be getting off the bench. I prefer Aaron coming off the bench so that we have a good offensive option who, along with Artest, can create his own shot.
     
  13. NO NAME

    NO NAME Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2007
    Messages:
    948
    Likes Received:
    4
    But I still prefer Rafer as our starting PG!
     
  14. knickstorm

    knickstorm Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,712
    Likes Received:
    74
    he cant be tony parker because he's not big enough.......parker's got 2+ inches, and 20+pounds on brooks which allows parker to finish much better around the rim

    which is why over the last few years parker shoots 50% from the field and is always among the league leaders in points in the paint........half the time brooks still throws up wild shots when he's driving

    last i checked parker has no problem feeding the ball to his big man, whereas yao ming passes the ball to aaron brooks more often than the other way around.
     
  15. Tom Bombadillo

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2006
    Messages:
    29,091
    Likes Received:
    23,992
    AB has earned the spot, Rafers horrible shot selection needs to meet Mr. Bench......
     
  16. trueroxfan

    trueroxfan Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2008
    Messages:
    4,170
    Likes Received:
    143
    he was just way out of position, and he made the mistake of going over the pick one time, landry should have stepped up, but was too late...yes he had defensive mistakes, but i don't think he is a liability, he just guessed wrong tonight, it happens.

    while i'm talking abt rafer...i have for a long time said rafer should be the starter, he can run the offense, he can play d...brooks is sexy off the bench, easy points, changes the tempo, gets everyone into it...however...brooks was playing so well in his starts that i am starting to think brooks as a starter would be better for the team, rafer as a backup would be helpful, because he can run the offense effectively with the second unit. in reality i dunno if this would actually work well for us, and i highly doubt adelman would ever do such a thing, just on my mind
     
  17. hrooo2002

    hrooo2002 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2008
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    1
    In my opinion, Brooks can even be better then Parker because of his better shooting skill.

     
  18. ReD_1

    ReD_1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2007
    Messages:
    3,055
    Likes Received:
    13
    But we can bash him whenever but when he's not on the court you know what happens.
     
  19. Alvin Choo

    Alvin Choo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,466
    Likes Received:
    152
    what is this running the offense that posters argue that rafer do?
    All i see is, rafer making the entry past to yao, the high post to tmac, or the rotation passes to whoever that is open. Are you telling me, that the coach cant teach AB to do that?

    And i agree, if the difference of defense is not that big, as most PGs still kill Rafer, why not play more AB? At least AB is making them work on the defensive end.

    Remember how AB was attacking CP3 yesterday? Where at 1 stage, CP3 just slip and fall, too bad that AB did not make that 3p shot.

    One more thing, what is this 3p chucking that rafer is doing quite alot this days? I know he want to go for a 2 for 1 shot, but how is chucking up a shot even qualified as attempting a shot? Why cant they post someone for a quick shot, or let tmac do the heat checking?
     
  20. agentkirb87

    agentkirb87 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    24
    He gets us into our offense faster, makes decisions faster. He doesn't run the offense in the sense that Chris Paul runs the offense. But if you ever watch Rafer running down the court when there is no fast break, usually he's throwing up hand signs. Those aren't gang signs, thats a play being called by Rafer.

    I agree, play more AB, but off the bench. Instead of 20 minutes off the bench I wanna see 25-30.
     

Share This Page