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Yao, Mr. Unclutch

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AzCkR, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. jlwee

    jlwee Member

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    Yao can be very clutch. In fact he has hit a few clutch shots this season alone. Most recently one being the shot over Al Jefferson to secure the victory. But most of the time he is unclutch simply due to him being fatigued and exhausted!
    Stamina has always been Yao's major issues. Once he is tired, he can't make shots, can't rebounds and turnover prone and we have seen this many many times.
    Yao's missed shots almost cost us this game but i don't get the purpose of this thread at all, it is simply HATE! Everyone make and miss even Kobe missed the final shot in the lakers' recent 2 losses. Is Kobe unclutch? I remembered any ad by Jordan where he mentioned he made a lot shots but he also missed tons of shots!
    Bottom line we won the game. Burn Yao alive if we lost it. But for this game, Yao should be spared!
     
  2. big11

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    He hasn't been able to hit those fade away consistently, hopefully soon. Well at least we won the game and he didn't break either of his leg right! We need TMAC back real soon.
     
  3. ydqkang

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    Somebody talked this about Yao's unclutch over and over,just clean your eyes

    Yao of course is not Mr.clutch,but no doubt he is basis of Houston!
    every minute he is doubled by the opponent muscles ,the time is too long to breathe for a tall guy like him every game ,how can he have enough energy to keep his shoot all through the game.

    Come on! everyone should be the clutch to be make us better
     
  4. nico_rosberg

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    http://www.82games.com/0809/QTR4S11.HTM

    It's obvious that Yao has PROVEN over and over again he can , absolutely CAN carry us the 4th Quarter.
     
  5. ferrarif1286

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    Yao runs out of gas in the 4th quater while opposing teams step up their defense all contributes to him becoming "Mr unclutch" and its not gonna change, it has nothing to do with heart because Yao has the heart to ask for the ball but he does not have the physical ability late in games to do what his heart wants him to do.
     
  6. v3.0

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    That absolutely DOES NOT prove if Yao converts at the end of tight close ballgames.

    He scores alot in the 4th. That's what it proves. How many of those are games already well in hand and how many are in tight close ball games.

    Stats do not show everything, and that is proof.

    How about Yao's stats in the last 3 minutes of games that was won or lost by 5 points or less? Those are the stats I want to know.
     
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  7. AGBee

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    I was hoping the Portland game would get him over the hump but then Roy had to ruin that.
     
  8. ibm

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    that's one of the games yao was clutch. so was roy. the final score has no bearings on this subject.
     
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  10. nico_rosberg

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    2008-2009 NBA Season

    Yao's Clutch Statistics
    (4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left,neither team ahead by more than 5 points)

    By 48 Mins

    FG. FGA FG% eFG% Ast'd Blk'd FTM Pts
    10.0 20.0 .500 .500 88% 6% 7.5 27.5


    Ron's Clutch Statistics

    By 48 Mins

    FG. FGA FG% eFG% Ast'd Blk'd FTM Pts
    2.7 12.2 .222 .222 0% 11% 4.1 9.5

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    2006-2007 NBA PLAYOFFS

    Yao's Clutch Statistics

    By 48 Mins

    FG. FGA FG% eFG% Ast'd Blk'd FTM Pts
    29.0 43.6 .667 .667 100% 0% 24.2 82.3

    --------------------------------------------------------------

    Sortable NBA Player "Clutch" Stats
    http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT6.HTM
    http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM
     
  11. ibm

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    ^^oops. ;)
     
  12. leebigez

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    i dont think yao is unclutch, i just think when teams get real physical, he has a few problems playing through whistles.
     
  13. ibm

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    that i can actually agree.

    and the other side of the equation is, yao needs to get more opportunities like tonight. i believe he will learn in the process. and if he gets enough chances, it will benefit the team mightily when it comes playoff time.
     
  14. langal

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    who the hell are you to use irrefutable statistical data?@!?

    knee jerk reaction to one game is the only way to go. I can only hope Morey feels the same.

    trade yao/tmac for mihm/odom. lakers can sign and trade Brian Grant to make the $$ amounts work. rebuild around artest.

     
  15. leebigez

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    How will it benefit the team? What will he learn that he didnt learn 2 yrs ago? i'm telling anyone that will listen, its a strength issue. Core strength to be exact. The team will not learn pounding the ball inside every possession when teams get physical and Yao turns his butterfly game on. When he has his bull game, its cool, but when his stregnth and stamina goes down, he really gets finesse. Thats not going to change.
     
  16. v3.0

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    I look at the names above Yao and sorta laugh. Am I supposed to be impressed?

    Using Ron as a comparison for this year is misleading cause the ball didn't go through him (unlike the 2nd OT tonight), it most likely went through Yao and Ron got the ball only when Yao didn't have a shot and clock is already winding down and Ron has to chuck a poor shot.

    So the unclutch argument still holds.
     
  17. ibm

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    so someone did not learn 2 years ago (in limited tries) now means he will not get it forever? sound logic, i should say.

    it's a stamina and strength issue, yes. but it is also a process of learning how to control your emotion as well as how to better create contact and force a foul to be called. is it not? how's a clutch or more clutch yao not beneficial to the team in the playoffs?
     
  18. ibm

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    who are the clutch players in your book and what are their stats?

    the guy used artest simply because after tonight many were talking about his "clutchness" all of the sudden.
     
  19. leebigez

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    Guys that create contact, always create contact every game all the time. Learnig to control your emotions have nothing to do with drawing fouls. If he wants to consistently draw fouls, its a mental and stregnth thing. Howard or young shaq dont draw fouls because the refs treat them different, they draq fouls because theyre always going toward the hoop. Even when they dont get the fouls, they keep coming and coming because theyre core strength is really good. When Yao go to the basket he gets the calls and it helps because he's a really good ft shooter, but to be consistent doing that, you have to be able to keep playing through whistles and non whistles. If he touches the ball as much as he did and dont have the core to make the team pay unless its a perfect double team, then its not a good offensive play.
     
  20. CometsWin

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    Those are the most meaningless statistics ever posted. Devin Harris and Vince Carter are 6th and 7th on that list. Where do you all get this crap?
     

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