see you're just repeating what Clyde said during the game. if those passes were bounce passes instead of lobs then they would've be easily caught. throwing lobs to Yao is good because he's taller than anyone else, but for other post players it's better to bounce it into the post
LOL - I did hear Clyde say that, but I was already thinking "How can you let Korver around you. It is the same beef I have with Yao, get low, get your arms out, make a box and don't present a narrow target, GET WIDE..... It is fundamental post up.....I am surprised that Landry is so bad at it. He gets great post position, but have you noticed how often he is ignored in the post? It is because the players that have to pass the ball know he is not great at receiving it. DD
Well, I think Landry is better at weak side on defense, while Scola is more smart. It's like choosing between Marcus Camby or Anderson Vareajo for defense.
i agree with you to a certain extent, but you also can't ignore how long players wait to pass him the ball when he has good position. this makes Carl hold out the post longer and gives the defender more time to get around him. if anything, that's what leads to the supposed "poor ability" to receive post entries
Clyde also said Landry needs to learn to keep his butt on the defender and not let him go around him...
I prefer Landry because there are time when Scola try to do layups and got blocked and i am thinking if Landry caught that pass...he would have dunked that shyt real quick and the opponent would not have a chance to block it. Also Scola has been making bad decisions in terms of passing the ball...turning it over multiple times. I know he will learn cuz of his high basketball IQ but i still continue seeing him making poor passing decision. This is unacceptable because the opponents wasn't even forcing him to turnover the ball, he just does it. His passing is either deflected or totally off target.
What about the times they DON'T get the ball right under the rim and Scola makes a nifty move to get the bucket, while landry pump fakes a few times and has to force a shot up that's contested because he can only make moves vertically. Its mostly a fascination with Landry's athleticism. It's been so long since Houston had a guy that attacks the rim like that, since Stevie's good days, that you feel he's doing more than he really is.
you are aware.. that most of Landry's strong finishes in traffic.. come off rebounds.. put-backs.. and cutting OFF the ball..? he has a non-existent low-post game.. he has trouble pinning/sealing his man.. securing the ball on a set feed.. and can't dribble.. which was the cause for turnovers tonight in the 4th.. Landry's not the better offensive player.. just has the athleticism, strength and speed leverage more often than not at his position.. to get the most from his hustle.. on the offensive end.. off the bench.. his jumpshot and athleticism on the offensive end < Scola's low post game and smarter defense.. the best you could argue is that they simply balance eachother out..
I'd prefer Scola because he can create his own shot by posting up while Landry relies more on good passes inside and wide-open 15-footers (both of which Scola can also do) You guys also seem to forget that Scola nailed a huge 3pt play against the Jazz. Sure it came off Ron's pass, but Scola hitting that shot and the frethrow is clutch enough for me.
Both Scola and and Landry are flawed defensive players who play hard but not smart at times. Scola gambles too much at times and Landry falls asleep alot on rotations and back cuts. I like Scola's post up game for needing tough grind it out points in the 4th but Landry gets alot of offensive rebounds also. This is all moot when we are fully healthy cause Ron will most likely play in the 4th along with Tmac, Battier, Yao, and *hopefully* the PG who is playing well that game.
Once everybody is healthy (barry and TMAC mainly) you will see tmac battier and artest at the 2 , 3 , 4 and they will switch on PnRs etc scola and landry both will sit
scola. And his performance shows it. Slightly better defense, better low post game, able to shoot from the baseline and on the key, more experience. Only thing landry is better than scola is his offensive rebounds. His a nuisance on the board for the opposite team as his so quick.
We shouldn't understate the importance of athleticism, strength, and speed at that position. We don't rely on Scola as a go-to player. For our PF role, Landry is the more effective offensive player. I'm not particularly impressed with Scola's low post game. He lacks the strength to back down most PFs. And Landry is much more effective attacking players off the dribble and finishing at the rim. Carl's also demonstrated a low post game which I think is no less effective than Scola's. Landry can actually hit a turn around jumper in the lane! I don't think I've ever seen Scola do that as a Rocket. He doesn't have the lift to get that off effectively against NBA competition. All that said, Scola is a smarter, less mistake-prone defensive player. So, if you like, that balances out. Someone mentioned earlier that Landry is a better weakside defender, akin to Marcus Camby. I don't agree with that at all. Landry is poor on the defensive boards, and he doesn't get many weakside block shots either.
That's the biggest lie ever. Scola is much more stronger. Landry get push around a lot and have problem keeping his man pin when posting up. Landry got the athletic advantage but not the strength. Plus Landry lose his man quite often on defense and vs Utah the team that cut, screen, back cut and play the pick and roll so effective Landry is not the most indicated to play. Now the other day vs Nola he should be out there at the end instead of Scola, is all about match ups.
You're right about Landry losing his man defensively. But I disagree on strength. Scola is like Battier -- a smart hustle player with below average strength for his position. Perhaps he's just too used to the European style of recoiling from contact instead of absorbing it.
I don't think that's true. Landry relys more on power than Scola does. Scola relies on what Shane Battier relies. It's almost like Scola is Battier on defense while Landry is like Artest.
That's why i say we don't have the perfect PF that we needed....there is a reason we kept all 3 PFs. A perfect player would be someone with a little bit of Chuck's defense, a bit of Scola's IQ and the athleticism and shooting skills of Landry. Of course, we would not find that player because he would be #1 draft pick already.
Scola is the best player, plus more experienced, i think the main reason Scola makes such dumb mistakes from time to time is because he is not given the ball quick enough on most times, when the offense starts, half th times he is in good position to score while we are still moving the ball try to get yao the ball. Main reason of this, dumb coaching, a good coaching will point all players too give the ball to the better option onf offense, while he is open most of the time near the basket (usually becaus ehe gets there before his defender) Tracy goes up the court really slow, and same for rafer, the only ones that run the court as fast as him ar artest and brooks. If Scola was given more confidence (not more shots) by his teammates and coach, he would be a much more impact player than he is, Landry in half the time on court usually gets as many touches as Scola, if that´s not strage, is at least a little bit odd. More touches to Scola early in the position would allow Yao to receive the pass high-low to him, or inside like the Spurs and the Lakers do with their inside duo, and also more scoring opportunities while defenses will have to be more aware of Scola. Right now, defenses never are aware of him untill Yao get´s the ball, Scola is only defended when he is a probable receiver off Yao.
