Oh rubbish..I spent 3 months in Beijing and Lanzhou and people there are just as racist as anyone in the U.S. I especially found it interesting when they banned blacks/Mongolians from bars because they were considered trouble makers. This happened to me a few times because they thought I was Mongolian....Of course since I was a guest of the Chinese Govt. specifically, they made sure to come down upon that bar specifically...Point is don't act like racism is only found in the U.S. you know it exists in China and many other countries too. http://shanghaiist.com/2008/07/18/the_racist_games.php Not really. There have been plenty of NBA players who have refused to respect the flag or the anthem and were allowed to continue to play in the league. Abdul-Rauf, etc.
Taiwan? A sovereign nation? Only in KingCheetah's fantasy world. But then again, in KingCheetah's fantasy world, he had a bring too.
Amaze me. Their own president snatched billions of dollars and acted like a complete r****d --- talk about meltdown? --- Yea right Go A Bian!
......... wow, you know how I know you don't watch enough news, the following is common knowledge about how Taiwan parliment runs. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/a_-Eigd7RbU&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/a_-Eigd7RbU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
It seems to me this is just a bad situation. And spiraled out of control because of cultural barriers. China can be a great yet difficult country for foreigners, especially Americans, to live in. On one hand, they are drawn to foreigners being a homogenous country, but also Chinese people are extremely sensitive when it comes to national pride. Very strong in terms of you vs. us attitude. I find it much easier to offend Chinese people than Americans when it comes to issues. For example, people can talk crap about America and if they're true, I'd have no problem agreeing with them. Heck, even if they are just ignorant comments I just get a good laugh and correct them politely. But I cannot make similar comments about issues in China unless I'm extremely careful with my wording. And generally I just avoid them because it's easy to cause unnecessary friction. I've had times where the conversation turns ugly VERY quickly because of inadvertant perceived slight. Anyway, this is just my 2 cents and based on personal experience. So take it for what it's worth.
cannot agree with you more. Chinese leaders are geniuses for brainwashing fellow people for half a century. People believe those minorities in power = the whole country. I'm risking my life saying this... Somebody's at the door I think... Anyway I'm immigrating to a better country. After that nothing really would matter.
Yea like they really give a **** about where you going...get a life, wherever u r, get a friggin life
Taiwan is slowly subducting China -- freedom is growing and conquering communism once again ! Spoiler
George W's idea of brain washing is driving through an automatic car wash in a convertible with the top down.
Actually, I wasn't trying to imply this. I'm just saying that given our respective cultures, Americans and Chinese have very different ideas of what is considered offensive and what is not. It really has nothing to do with government propaganda. I would go into details on my personal opinions on the reasons for this, but that would probably derail into a D&D discussion. But I will say that it has less to do with "commie brainwashing" and more with Chinese/American culture and history.
Come on man, are you telling me that Chinese are so very different that we don't make jokes at all cuz we feel violated all the time? I agree with you that there's a history behind but absolutely none of culture's business. I laugh at my friends all the time but we don't talk about human rights issues or politics. AND when you said "I find it much easier to offend Chinese people than Americans when it comes to issues", that "issues" specifies "national pride". Yao's pretty funny too sometimes but when asked for a comment on human rights in China by a US journalist, he got offended as well! Just like a typical Chinese would do. You might wonder what is with Chinese national pride and why is talking domestic politics taboo ... in China. Even commies put on a spacewalk show when millions of Chinese live in poverty, we were still happy to have the very hope that we might catch up with the world again. Same feelings happened when Yao was the 1st draft and playing nice and BeiJing hold the Games. Nobody likes their motherland invaded and rotted with opium. It is only a matter of "culture" when kids are told by their parents that comments on government will cause jail even execution, when dictatorship becomes uniting the country tie together, when websites are blocked for the sake of harmonious society, when brainwashing messages are everywhere. You people should thank God for born in a country of freedom while you guys are still complainting about Bush's policies. There's just no perfect way to protect a nation under attack.
I thought it was self-evident based on the nature of the thread. But it seems not to be the case. I meant conversations between a Chinese and a westerner, especially Americans. It's not about talking between friends, but talking to associates from a different country. Obviously, once you know someone at a personal level, the leeway you give that person when it comes to talking becomes a lot higher. Basically, I'm saying that if Mouneke was Chinese and said the same thing to the other team, it would cause a lot less of a ruckus than what happened.
