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What's the Deal w/ Feminists?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by SageHare6, Dec 17, 2008.

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  1. SageHare6

    SageHare6 Member

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    Story goes something like this...

    Mrs. asks me about X-mas gifts. And I give her the run down and arrive upon her father's gift, for which I was really excited about the present I got him. I said: "I'm really looking forward to honoring -your father-." She responds with a curt: "oh, you really believe that huh?" And then she goes on this tirade about how:

    "you aren't going to honor my mother?"
    "don't you believe in fairness?"
    "don't you know women have been oppressed since the beginning of time?"
    "if only you had more feminist views..."
    "if only you had more progressive views..."

    all the while, I made it clear I had gifts for everyone, INCLUDING her mother.

    i didn't bother getting into a heated discussion, albeit I was definitely feeling it under the collar. one day, she's a self professed feminist. the next day, she's not. but for the feminist side, WHAT THE FRAK IS THE DEAL?

    I hear Yoda in the background saying: "much anger i sense in she"

    :confused: :confused: :confused:

    confusedandfrustratedandbummerforXmasSAGE
     
  2. Refman

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    You have fallen into the ages old trap. A lot of women (not all...not necessarily most...but a lot) have a special bond with their mother.

    If she feels that you have slighted her mother in some way, you're screwed.

    That is all.
     
  3. moestavern19

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    You need to pick your battles more wisely young man.

    Mother in Law will live probably 10 more years than the Father in law.

    And when she moves in, you've got 2 women always ready to nag-team your punk ass. :eek:
     
  4. SageHare6

    SageHare6 Member

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    Dude,

    The mere thought of that is terrifying.

    [​IMG]

    freakedoutthxtomoesomenSAGE
     
  5. heypartner

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    Question: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    Answer: THAT"S NOT FUNNY!

    for best results, give the answer by interrupting the target audience in mid "I don't know, how many"
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    Stare at her blankly and reply, "Bros before hos?"
     
  7. Astro101

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    Shoulda replied with "um...shouldn't you be making be a sandwich now?"
     
  8. Storm Surge

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    You wanna hear a joke?

    Women.
     
  9. PiggyTails

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    It's comments like this, that sicken me. It's not funny. Stop being sexist!

    The text below is from: http://www.gurl.com/findout/label/pages/0,,694923,00.html

    "Feminism is the radical notion that women are human beings."
    --Cheris Kramerae, author of A Feminist Dictionary, 1996

    You've probably heard lots of things about feminists. They're man-hating lesbians who like to burn their bras in public. Or, bitter women who don't shave their armpits and despise sex. AND, if you listen to Pat Robertson, feminists are encouraged to kill their own children and overthrow the government.

    If you haven't guessed it already, all of the above--ranging from the silly to the outright ridiculous--are simply stereotypes. The actual definition of a feminist (according to the American Heritage Dictionary) is someone, male or female, who believes in social, political and economic equality between the sexes. Basically, feminists believe that women and men should be treated the same and given the same rights.

    Now that you know the definition of this f-word, here's a little background info. Even though the term was developed in France (feminisme) in the mid-1800s, it didn't become popular until the 1960s. By the 1960s, the women's movement was well underway and women all over were campaigning for equal rights across the board--from eliminating job discrimination to gaining reproductive rights and political representation in the government. Previously, these women's groups had used the term "women's liberationist" to define themselves, but as it began to lose popularity they embraced the term "feminist."

    So how did this word come to have such negative connotations? Like most things that are challenged, the previous, male-dominated power structure felt threatened. Change can be scary; and now women were demanding equal pay for equal work or the ability to make choices about their own bodies. Women were rightfully angry and did some very radical things (though no bras were burned, contrary to popular belief). It is much easier for people to put down feminism than admit that society must change its ways.

    Also, many people tended to (and still do) think that since the term "feminism" has "fem" in it, a feminist must be someone who wishes to raise women above men. But if you look to the actual definition of a feminist, it's simply about creating an even playing field for men and women.

    And you cannot forget the people or language used that encourages these negative connotations. The term feminazi (feminist + nazi) has been used to criticize feminists, purporting the stereotype that they have a Nazi-esque hatred for men as well as believing that women are superior to men. Therefore, a cycle of anti-feminist discourse is always playing.
     
  10. Tom Bombadillo

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    Should'nt you be in the kitchen, or like, not voting? ;)

    "A professor told dirty jokes in class and the women wanted to protest it. So they decided that the next time that the professor will start with these kind of jokes they all will leave the class as a protest.

    Somehow the professor heard about the plan.

    In the next lecture, in the beginning of the lecture he said: "In Sweden a prostitute makes $2000 per night."

    All the women stood up and started to leave the class. So he shouted after them: "Where are you going? The plane to Sweden doesn't take off until the day after tomorrow."
     
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  11. Astro101

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    I'm not sexist. I love women so much I'll have sex with any one of them who wants. Only the hot ones though.
     
  12. PiggyTails

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    Oh of course. I expected those responses. Male chauvinistic pigs. Why don't you grow up?

    Feminist: someone, male or female, who believes in social, political and economic equality between the sexes. Basically, feminists believe that women and men should be treated the same and given the same rights.

    According to the definition, would you say you are a feminist too?
     
  13. KaiSeR SoZe

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    where did you get that definition...?
     
  14. Dei

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    Hell no. Women =/= Men; though I'm not implying that either is superior over the other.
     
  15. PiggyTails

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    That doesn't make any sense. If they are not equal, then one is superior over the other, but which one?
     
  16. Tom Bombadillo

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    Are you Christian?
    "I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. For some are already turned aside after Satan." —1st Timothy 5:14

    "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord."
    —Ephesians 5:22

    "Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement." —1st Peter 3:6

    "Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." —1st Corinthians 11:9

    "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."
    —1st Corinthians 11:3


    Regardless of what the definition of "feminist" is, It far to often turns into a convenient excuse for sexism.
     
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  17. Dei

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    Why would you put the sexes on the same metric, anyway? Girls do girl stuff, boys do boy stuff.
     
  18. PiggyTails

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    And guess what?? The bible was written by MEN, wasn't it? No wonder most women in the bible are known only as the daughters of, the wives of or the mother of [insert her father's, husband's or son(s) name].


    Yes, women and men are different but we are all human beings!!!
     
  19. Tom Bombadillo

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    Jesus acknowledged that the bible is the "Word Of God"........


    I must ask again. Are you REALLY Christian? If so, hmmm.........
     
    #20 Tom Bombadillo, Dec 18, 2008
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