[Game] MS knew about 360 disc-scratching

I'm not trying to stoke any PS3 vs 360 wars here, but Microsoft botched the development process of the 360. I've read a lot of accounts of the months leading to the release of it, and they made classic blunder after blunder. They had clear warnings about the disc scratching and red ring issues, but they ignored all the signs and dumbed down on their QA processes. The 360 had unbelievably high failure rates weeks before launch.

They were so locked into their date and switching specs every few weeks as launch date crept up. I'm not surprised that there were so many problems. They've obviously sold well enough, and they have corrected a number of errors. Hopefully, all 3 will learn the lessons of Microsoft with the 360 and not repeat the same decisions for the next generation.

 

*sigh* I remember when my SNES never had hardware issues. Seems common since then. (PS one having to be flipped on its side, PS2 not reading dvds/weak lens, 360's RROD, etc etc)

 

Never been a problem for me.........

 

Okay, first off, I think most gamers around here know that I own all 3 current-gen platforms, and I greatly favor my PS3 over the other two.

...that said, this whole 360 disc-scratching issue is just r****ded. The end. Why the f*** would it ever be necessary to re-orient the machine WHILE THE DISC IS SPINNING? Basic logic dictates you don't do that with the machine turned on at all, let alone when it's on AND there's a disc in there. I put this right below pouring hot coffee in your lap on the no-duh-o-meter.

Now, the crappy manufacturing and the whole RROD issue... pile on the 360 for that. That stuff is terrible. There are any number of GOOD reasons to hate Microsoft. But this whole "disc scratching" thing is a non-issue. It's unbelievable how much press this is getting.

 

probably have one of the new version of the xbox. i got one this past january and i havent had a problem with it. but i have friends who have had tons of problems who got it near the release date.

 

Yeah, I have to agree. I think this is a minor thing, compared to the very real clusterf**** that Microsoft did with the RRoD on the early machines. To me that was a major screw up.

 

Indeed. Funny how the PS1 and PS2 were considered notoriously unreliable in their day (I went through 3 of each), but the 360's hardware issues are orders of magnitude worse.

 

Cartridge systems are always going to be more reliable than any optical disk system. Well...maybe except for the original NES.

 

I knew about RRoD and I still bought one.

 

When I first got my 360 I had no idea about the disc scratching issue and I would leave my 360 vertical. Well one day I was playing a game and my bro came in and decided to hook up the ethernet cable in the back of the 360. So I put my game on pause and when he stuck in the cable the 360 tilted over and my game was demolished. Lucky for me it was a "backup" game so no huge loss. But I couldn't believe what had happened, I was pissed that it was even possible to lose a $60 game so easily. Now I know better and leave my 360 horizontal always.

 

I just had to buy a new 360 cause my old one was eating up my discs.

that being said, this plus the rrod is still worth the advantages it has over the PS3.

 

Besides the fact that the PS3 murders the 360 in every possible way as a media center? Then raises it from the dead, and re-murders it? 8 times?

 

Besides the fact that the 360 has been murdering the PS3 on games and multiplayer.

:shrugs:

 

I don't want to pay a crapload of money for online multiplayer or for downloading demos. Or any money at all, for that matter. Advantage: PS3.

And Uncharted is the best exclusive either system has... and that's when I haven't even gotten around to playing MGS4 yet.

360 has better FPS's and better RPGs. It does. That's why I own one, as well as my PS3. Because I love Gears of War 2, Tales of Vesperia, Lost Odyssey, and Left 4 Dead. But if I had to choose just one system, it would require exactly zero thought.

Which system has a better lineup of exclusives is at least arguable, based on the genres of games a particular person enjoys the most. Which system is a better media center or more reliable is not.

 

idk, a lot of my divx movies won't play on the ps3. I have not tried them on the 360 but my friend went from a 360 to a PS3 and all his his divx movies worked no the 360 but only half of them worked on the PS3.

 

I think a lot of people agree that XBL is worth the subscription fee, but I know I didn't pay full price for it.

If you're the type that gets lost for hours playing other people online, it is the better choice.

Without XBL, I'd be more content waiting for PC ports and looking for a deal for the PS3.

Whether you're a fanboy or not, 200 bucks for an arcade is a great deal.