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[Chron]Brooks to start. Rockets have moved on without Francis?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by worzel gummidge, Dec 16, 2008.

  1. Rover16

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    I really admire adelman for not playing francis cause the dude is done. Alston and von wafer hurt and francis still doesn't get a sniff. I love it! :cool:
     
  2. Shroopy2

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    I dont have any expectation of Francis at this point and wont apologize for him. If he's not showing anything in practice, whether its talent, health or effort, he shouldnt play. If the coach won't play him, the GM should then deal him. If he doesnt have the drive, please retire.

    Still have a tough time putting the "done" label on Francis though

    Bernard King years ago missed more than 2 seasons to 2 major reconstructive knee surgeries. He came back at age 31 and averaged 17 pts a game. At age 34 with aging and loss of explosiveness against him he averaged 28 POINTS a game. This is with 80's medicine and rehab.

    Darius freaking no discernable talent except jumping Miles just signed with a team after 2 years missed and 25 pounds added. Francis might be Bob Sura, but lets not make him to be some Jay Williams either.

    Seriously, some of you people and I'll toss you in there, are starting to creep me out. Sports is an escape, but I dont know what you're escaping. Probably sanity
     
  3. Rover16

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    No if I was escaping sanity then I would believe francis had something left. Since I believe he's done, I'm in the sane group that is living in reality instead of the past. :cool:
     
  4. Jd1

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    if SF3 has no shot on this team, y not giving the spot to Deke?
    something is messed up..
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    I don't understand the point of loving when a guy that is all heart gets no play time.....

    That is strange to me and something I would never wish on any Rocket.....


    I question your fanhood sir......
     
  6. Shroopy2

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    *Since I'm bored....well enjoy the added attention you're getting*

    "Since I believe he's done, I'm in the sane group that is living in reality instead of the past." is different than
    Fanhood and realism has nothing to do with it. Thats just......weird.
     
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    Francis in his best days, was nowhere near as good as Bernard King was. King was bigger, stronger, and much more skilled basketball player than Francis ever was. Steve was good, but his numbers looked good on a bad team. He did average 6 assists per game, but he also averaged 3-4 turnovers per game as well. But what King did was impressive. You rarely see a player miss 2 years and still be productive. He had to have worked really hard with the 80's treatment.
     
  8. Lonestar

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    Man, What does RA know? You r the head coach :eek: :eek:
     
  9. jasalexander

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    If Tmac plays like he was distributing the ball and being efficient shooting, then in my opinion Rafer is not needed. Aaron Brooks is a better scorer than rafer and helps in this area when the Rockets go into one of there shooting funks. I also believe that Steve Francis would also flourish playing with Tmac because of this same reason he is a scorer and distributer. Having Tmac helps remove the pressure of bringing the ball up the court so that Steve or Aaron can catch the ball on the wing and either pick and roll or drive straight to the basket. So Rafer being hurt for awhile is not a bad thing in my opinion. Plus never play Luther Head, hes worthless.
     
  10. Shroopy2

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    Agreed, Bernard King >>>>> Francis, and arguably everyone else on the roster. Its about physical ability to recover from injury I'm talking about. A 31 year old NBA All Star and a 31 year old local gym player have mostly the same chance at recovery, its not totally impossible

    I know the thinking is a marginally productive player set back by serious injury declines to below-NBA standard, in today-gone tomorrow. But a more talented player doesnt necessarily have more talented recovery. Francis chances at being 80% of what he was is as good as Kings. The debate is if 80% Francis is still a servicable player. I say yes, most say no. But its on Francis
     
  11. Rover16

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    I just love being right about the whole francis situation. Since the minute he signed last year, I said it was a mistake. Was proven right last year and everyone said just wait till this year. Well all summer I told everyone he was done, and they just kept saying he'll be back this year.

    I just don't understand the people that think francis has anything left in the tank. He's a ymca player now and is only on the team this year cause he exercised his player's option for this year and there was no chance morey would want him back. Morey was forced to take him back this year.
     
  12. fmullegun

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    How does anyone know this though?


    My question is except for AB how can SF3 at least not be given a chance to get in before Luther Head? Or even split minutes with him?

    Head has shown that his skill is shooting, and thats it. He has no other NBA level talent. SF3 is a three time allstar that should get a shot behind AB and Alston. We cannot play AB for 42 minutes every night!
     
  13. fmp087

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    LOL, he seems lost without Rafer. :D :D :D
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Fmullegun,

    I don't know that at all, it is just based upon so many teams giving up on the guy. I am rooting for him, trust me.

    DD
     
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    all i know is that an injured francis is better than a healthy luther head. end of story. and don't trot out the "break-out" game head had this year, cause i will just point out the win francis gave us last year against phoenix on a bum knee. head is not even a consistant shooter. his stats look good cause he REGULARLY passes when he is wide open. he is small, cant jump, is weak, can't make a decent imbounds pass to yao, is turnover prone, and is a terrible ball handler. OH but wait, he understands aldemans system!

    something is rotten. von wafer is NOT a pg, and he was getting consideration? maybe adleman is pissed cause francis is pushed on him by Les? i dunno, but i find it super *****en lame that idiots profess that francis is "DONE" without any knowledge of the situation at all. who knows, but if i have to see head in the rotation again, and i am going to kill the TV.
     
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    lets start a poll SF3 Fans vs SF3 Haters, let see who wins that. For all we know the last game coulda been a fluke and the Rockets could get destroyed on friday. So plz, shut up and hope he gets a chance to prove us wrong or prove us right.
     
  17. Shroopy2

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    I see. So even if Francis was 150% healthy, you'd still rather have Adelman back up your opinion by holding a healthy player from playing, just so you can be correct for the liberating "I told you so" to the "jock sniffers"

    Which is fine, its sports. I'll gladly eat crow if Francis is done, there's nothing to lose here.

    Its just, what part of low risk-high reward don't people understand here? Why try to hold back the high reward part?
     
  18. jpapi0022

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    here is something about Francis........



    Hello, John

    This is a best chance to play S,Francis and yet Adelman does`nt even try him like Head and Wafer do they not get along?

    (He does try him. They have these things called practices. The coaches are always there and sometimes, Steve is there, too. -- Jonathan)

    Posted by: Romie555 at December 17, 2008 03:06 PM
     
  19. FanSince93

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    I heard Steve had a fight in a club the other night, he beat the crap out of a guy.

    Was that you Rover16?

    Just Kiddin :)

    Please dont wish bad for a player unless he plays for Mavs or Utah. D
     
  20. Doc Rocket

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    ...and things can happen in the wink of an eye. Have a great New Year or half year or whatever...

    See if anyone ever holds an option year hostage again...

    3 is an idiot. He really doesn't see it coming...
     

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