Huh? you talking about common sense? If Muoneke's being racist it doesnt matter what his teammates are. Examples? Remember that Thierry Henry incident? What about Shaq's ching chong comment? If showing on worldwide TV doesnt stop you being racist, nothing else will.
plus i highly doubt he cares about who he plays around anymore. Muoneke has globetrotted to every country possible. It's likely he doesn't feel that he's even part of the Chinese world anyways.
Give me a break. You act like the NBA is full of racist that hate Chinese people. Racially tense country but the people voted in a minority president. How many countries can say that? How do you know the Chinese weren't being racist to the American player? Everybody keeps saying the NBA is full of no good thugs but at least they leave everything on the court. You don't see guys ganging up on each other after the game. Seriously, could you imagine what would happen if a NBA player did what Wei did?
lol if you think Shaq is a racist. Even Yao said he knew Shaq was joking. Bad joke by Shaq because everyone is racially sensitive now, but he is no racist. I guess you must have missed all the praise that Shaq gives to Yao over the years.
This forum should be renamed "NBA Draft 2009: Racism and Other Sociological Factors" I wouldnt put it past him to make racist remarks in china. white and black americans do it all the time in foreign countries. well, the stupid ones at least. and what happens? they end up getting their a$$es handed to them in a paper bag. lesson learned i guess. although, professional athletes should never act that way (attacking a man with his family) but you also dont talk trash to a group of young immature jocks no matter what country you're in.
You have proof, or you are just going off of hearsay. Of course he deserved to get beat in front of his family.
wth? yeah, i'm an american living in japan and i've travelled around asia quite a bit actually. i even have many friends who are that way. even going as far as talking **** to yakuza guys in the streets. one guy was making racist remarks to a group of japanese college kids and they waited for him outside the bar and proceeded to beat him senseless with an umbrella and their fists. but in hindsite i think the guy was australian. oh. and i never said he deserved to be beat in front of his family. i never even hinted at that. but if he was making racist comments then he himself deserved to be beat down for sheer stupidity. you don't go into compton or harlem with your KKK hood and gown yelling n!&&@.
It's just an official story and another one-sided story fabricated out in public to us. Maybe we should ask Yao of whether he knows anything about his buddy Liu's incident or any insider information?
My point is a guy takes a beatdown, and as far as you are concerned, he must have deserved it. It couldnt possibly be the fault of his attackers. You are American... lolz... wth does that have to do with anything.
Wow...I can't believe some of you guys. There are TWO issues here. #1. Racism. #2. What the Chinese Captain did. Regarding #1, America is definitely a racist country. Only WHITE people claim otherwise because duh, they're the majority. Every Minority whether you are black, asian, hispanic and HONEST CAUCASIANS will tell you that America is a racist country. That should not be debated, yet some of you guys want to debate that. GIVE ME A BREAK. It is not so FAR-FETCHED that an American Black Basketball would make a racist comment to Chinese basketball players. STOP LYING that it didn't happen. IF it didn't happen, WHY would the Chinese players try to stage an attack?? I'm almost 100% sure Muoneke must have made a very racist comment. Regarding #2, what Liu and his teammates tried to do is WORSE than what Muoneke did. Liu and his teammates are a DISGRACE, and should be banned from CBA. Back to #1, Racism is ALIVE, and REAL. I know SOME Caucasians think Racism is imaginary, like seeing a unicorn, but trust me: As an Asian male, I see enough racism to know this country, the USA, is at the very least, Racially tense. The Election of Obama is NOT proof that Racism doesn't exist. I know most of you love Yao Ming and all, but even he would admit that he saw racism in this country. In fact, in a Dallas game a few years ago, I remember the Dallas announcer made blatant racist comments to Yao Ming. Yao's comment? "I never saw this type of bird before...". That's right. Until Yao Ming set his foot on the USA, he NEVER saw Racism before. Because he was in China most of his life. Only when he stepped foot in the USA did he experience Racism.
what is this? the OJ case? the guy obviously did or said something that incited this whole thing. professional athletes don't go chasing after people for no reason whatsoever. nobody has proof of anything, but an educated person can look at the situation and see that something made those guys angry. this is not unlike when maxwell ran into the stands and everyone said he chased an innocent fan. when all the while, the fan had made a distasteful remark about maxwell's child who had died. was he right to chase him? no. but i understand.
So . . .there is NO DOUBT that the black player did something stupid unprovoked but the idea of the asian players doing something stupid unprovoked is beyond you? Is that what you are saying? I know Gabe's brother. . and father they are both Great folx . . . no we not best friends and I am not a friend of the family etc but what I know of both of them . . I am giving Gabe the benefit of the doubt Rocket River
yes, that is exactly what i am saying. and that has NOTHING to do with BLACK or ASIAN. we dont know EXACTLY what happened but obviously something happened that was enough to make a bunch of PRO ATHLETES (NOT PUNK KIDS WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO) attack a man while he was with his family. and whatever you happen to know about this guys family means nothing to me. i know plenty of guys who are really nice or their families are nice but sometimes say or do stupid things. so kudos for you for sticking up for your friend, but i just choose to believe, based on the facts presented to us, that this was NOT just another unprovoked juvenile aggravated assault. maybe you can argue that the other team was pissed that they lost (did they?) and thus confronted the guy after the game b/c theyre all idiots and can't leave their hostile energy on the court, but i have a VERY HARD TIME believing that. based on what we see from the Chinese players in the NBA. Maybe I can also see ONE player being an out of control idiot and doing that. but not a group of players. gimme a break. If Rafer told the team to attack Chris Paul when he was with his family; DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD LISTEN??? HELL NO. WHAT MAKES THE CBA TEAM ANY DIFFERENT?? because they are CHINESE??? do you see how defensive and impartial you're being? throwing that race card out like it's an Ace up your sleeve. All I said is that something must've happened to piss off both parties and sometimes nice people unknowingly say and do stupid things. so take your RACE CARD and put it somewhere where the sun dont shine.
I sat in the back of an Engineering class with Gabe when I went to UT. I missed class all the time but he was always willing to tell me what the HW assignments were and share notes. I didn't talk to him much but I thought he was a real nice guy, never felt like he judged me for being Japanese. I figure he did anger those CBA guys by doing something but to call it racism without any proof is a bit much. Just my two cents.
Stop silly imaging. There is no video to prove what exactly happen. Both side, Yunnan and Shanghai team defend themselves. The offical panished Liu wei, but said both side have responsibility. Most Shanghai palyer are too young. Liu wei has had a fight with American players when he was in USA with Yao about 10 years ago. Beside that, he has no history.
I think you're not giving the U.S.A. a fair shake here. I think the issue is that the people, all people are racist. There is racial tension in the U.S. because it's the most diverse nation in the world. The fact that this country is not a warzone everyday is a miracle in of it self. I do believe that (per Kanye) racism is alive, they're just better at concealing it but if you look at how people treat each other in general, it's amazing that we the civil rights movement happened ~40+ years ago. As a nation, the U.S.A. came a long way and is unmatched anywhere else in the world. I do see the possibility of Gabe making a racist comment in the heat of the game thoug with adrenaline rushing and stuff. It's not acceptable and he mght've done it. But what Liu Wei did, after he had time to chill out, takes more pre-mediation and more damning. Lastly, Yao never saw that kind of bird before? He's lived in Shanghai right? Don't tell me he never seen the attitude of the city folks vs. country side folks. Are you saying that people in the cities dont' judge as soon as they hear an accented speach in the cities?
