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Jamal Mashburn and Jon Barry: Yao is the best center in the NBA

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by noize, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. tsunami

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    Pinky gay doesn't know that cause he's blind, and he's D Howard's b**** lol
     
  2. comehere2

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    people know who Yao is.

    no need to add this sort of title here. to make it worse is endless debate and change game after game.

    if yao only takes one reb the whole game, he isn't anything but a poor Yao.
     
  3. ibm

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    first, it was said amare outperforms yao and is the best center/big man in the game. then amare goes down for a whole season. when he comes back, even though he's just as good as he was, you pretty much don't hear this "amare is the best" from the media any more.

    then all hopes are on oden. too bad he didn't play at all in his first year and doesn't look anywhere near "great" as of now.

    then there's bynum. too bad he went down before yao did. and after he comes back this year, ppls find out he's not exactly a 20/10 type of guy; or at least doesn't look like it, yet.

    so dh is the last hope - he at least has the stats and hasn't gone down yet. lol.


    i'm not even interested in this "who is the best" argument any more. i just want to laugh at the pity media and its somewhat idiotic followers.
     
  4. Mr.Pink

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    Can you stop making excuses and put your glasses on so you can see that DH owns Yao in every main stat...

    DH: 21.2 ppg, 14.5 boards, 4 blks, 56.7 shooting

    Yao: 19 ppg, 9.7 boards, 1.6 blks, 52.5 shooting
     
  5. TracyMcGreat

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    lol. u got demoted
     
  6. yaorta

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    before DH's second year, i considered him a PF
     
  7. larsv8

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    The game is more than just stats.
     
  8. mrfirefly7

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    Stats themselves don't tell the whole story. You should know it if you are true NBA fan.
     
  9. Tsquare

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    Howard also plays more minutes than Yao Ming per game too so his stats will look better.
     
  10. BlakeB

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    I'm sure it's all been said, but even though DHo has better numbers than Yao right now... that really doesn't tell the whole story. Even just baseing it off of those numbers from a still very young season it's really close.

    But just as an example of stats not equating to a good player: Mike James anyone? I'm not comparing James and Howard, but I am saying slightly better numbers don't account for one great player being better than another great player. You have to look at other things-how did they match up against each other for instance?

    Yao Ming, last year before he got injured, was playing like the hand's down best center in the league. And I think, possibly anyways, once he hits his stride a bit this season we'll see him averaging a lot more ppg. See, another reason Howard's numbers are better is because Howard is the primary option on his team-so is Yao, but guys like T-Mac, Artest, Scola, Landry, Brooks, and Alston usually end up getting double digits nightly which takes a way a bit from Yao's stat line.

    What it comes down to though, is that Yao is a better player and he is the best center in the league these days. He's not atheletic like a Shaq or D-Howard, but as was evident last year, if he is the offensive focus he can score near 30ppg. His size and strength, along with his shooting touch (at the line especially) make him a hard player to account for, and it seems that the only way teams can consistantly stop him is to aggressively double him.

    In time, I think Dwight Howard will mature into the best center in the game-he's definitely got all the tools to be a great center. He's a different kind of center than Yao, but one that can be equally effective-perhaps more so. One thing is for sure though, over the next decade Howard and Yao are gonna have some great CvC matchups that might just harken back to a whimsical time when the center ruled the hardwood floor.
     
  11. JayLau910

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    there's no debate who you'd rather have with the ball in his hands with the game on the line in game 7 of a playoff series.

    it is true that howard DOMINATES teams that are not as good as the magic and yao does not in such a 22pts, 15reb, 4 blks kinda way. yao is a lil more consistent and will go off and dominate due to his own will to do so.

    if only you combine dwight's freakish athleticism and yao's post play, you can get a light version of dream. light being only in the fact that hakeem's footwork was otherworldly ... haha. no center can emulate the same post moves with such quickness, speed, and strength. dwight needs to work on his post game before he can claim the #1 center spot. yao needs to just have the mentality to dominate to withhold the spot.
     
  12. djimi

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    Mr. Pink is DH's toilet paper!! :D anyway, as much i would like to hear ex-NBA players praise Yao, i think Yao still need to bring it on another level. i'd say, he's still around 70% of his full potential. probably fear of injury affects 10% of it. i think he still have plenty of room for improvement. Dream got his ring in his 9th season? if yao work really hard and stay out of injury, i hope he will get a ring for himself and for us Rocket fans with Tru Warrier as his fellow comrade
     
  13. DaDakota

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    It is a close call, and it should not be...Yao could be so much better if he just trusted himself.

    DD
     
  14. DaDream

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    I have always thought Stu Scott hates and talks bad about any player that is not black. Does anyone else get this vibe from him?
     
  15. northeastfan

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    For interior defense and rebounding on both ends, you have to go with Howard. For scoring, you have to go with Yao. I would say that it depends on the matchup, but overall, I think I would go with Howard because he is more durable and has a longer future in the NBA.
     
  16. jVgOwnsYou

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    Definantly. I get the vibe that he's a robot creation of espn that has programmed responses to every situation.

    Responses like "Oh. Oh. Did u jus see dat? Yao, u jus got dunked on."
    and "But fellas, Mcgrady's never made it out of tha firs round. These are the facts. My boy stephen a. I know u got my back on dis one"

    Its really lame, and makes us all dumber.
     
  17. jVgOwnsYou

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    Speaking of stuart scott, i remember after the celtics won the championship last season, ray allen(one of the best shooters the game has ever seen) was on the podium and scott goes up to interview him and asks, "so what did u do differently to break out of your post season shooitng slump." Or something like that. Nice.
     
  18. battousai

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    I know idiot like you would show up here once in a while.
    want to talk about stats? how about the WHOLE stats for career instead of picking biased figures that you want?

    Career Stats:

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwight_howard/career_stats.html

    DH: 16.8 PPG, 12.4 boards, 1.9 blks, 56.7 shooting, 2.92 TO, 59.9 FT,
    36.1 Mins.

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/yao_ming/career_stats.html

    YAO: 19.0 PPG, 9.2 Boards, 1.8 blks, 52.0 shooting, 2.66 TO, 82.8 FT,
    32.6 Mins.

    Want to talk about numbers? then look at it career wise, and not based on 2 to 3 months of performance into a season. For all we know, DH could got hurt and missed the rest of the 08-09 season.

    certainly Yao is putting up similiar numbers with less playing mins.
    Now should I pull up stats between DH and YAO head to head games?

    can you say, you got owned?
     
  19. battousai

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    oh forgot to mention that Rockets has 3 bigs, which means each will get less shoots and stats will across the board be lower. Just check Celtics big 3 if you don't know it already. beside wasn't there a theme that we are trying to get our guys healthy for the post season? so less mins, less stats is reasonable. you wouldn't know as trolls don't follow sports.
     
  20. rhino17

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    what the hell does a real center even mean? If you play center, you are a center, simple as that.
     

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