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Will there be an Artest Injury Ticker?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

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    Given that Ron seems to be in the same situation as Tracy, where they can play if they can tolerate the pain, but want to take some time off to rest the injury, will the Houston Chronicle put up an Artest Injury Ticker? You know, with Rockets Record without Artest, and "Pay for No Play"?
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    If the Doctors tell him he needs to play to strengthen it and he ignores their advice, he probably would get one too.

    DD
     
  3. el_locoteee

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    The doctors said he can play. He is the one with a lot of pain.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Can and should are two very different words, are they not?

    DD
     
  5. el_locoteee

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    "Nothing has changed with regard to Ron’s medical condition from last night. While our medical staff agrees that the ankle injury is fine to play on, Ron is understandably frustrated that the pain has not subsided as he had hoped so he wants to try sitting out the two-game road trip in order to see if the pain recedes."
     
  6. el_locoteee

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    BTW T-mac is not resting he is rehabbing, different thing
     
  7. ShadyMcGrady

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    That there be's some damning evidence, DaDa. ;)

    Just kidding. It's not quite the same situation, I will agree to that. I don't think anyone would fault T-Mac if he had been on top of his rehab (supposedly he wasn't) but then again...
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Yep, something he could and should have been doing in the summer to avoid this in season.

    But whatever, he has a guaranteed contract, and has the organization by the short hairs and knows it.

    Maybe he will come back on the road trip to help carry the team while Ron is out... I Hope so, because even though he was not at his best he was still helping the team......more than Ron was.....or is....IMO.

    DD
     
  9. thacabbage

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    As much as I would like to join in on exposing an unfair bias, the cases aren't really analogous. T-Mac actively needs to be playing to improve the condition. That's different than the state of 'being able to play' that Ron finds himself in.

    One thing we all can agree on though is that the Chronicle is one of the biggest jokes in the country.
     
  10. el_locoteee

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    You can't rehab right after a surgery. Look at Battier for rushing and going to hard on his.

    His rehab wasn't done and he wasn't fully healthy, he play to soon because, Shane wasn't playing.

    I know is a totally different surgery but Francis have take longer that first schedule, Arenas haven't heal as expected.

    On Shane they have been controlling his minutes, and Yao have been on a force limited minutes. None of those guy are fully healthy.

    T-Mac just took the rehab out of the game into the gym because he wasn't playing effective, he defense sucked and he wasn't getting back at all and was hurting the rockets. He is sees the Big picture, playoff. He took the rest when the schedule got easier, so he can be effective when the Utah, Lakers of the NBA need to be played.

    By Artest needed to seat out. He will probably play, At least at 50% he can be better than Head.

    That was why we acquire more bench so we don't need to rush players in to the game after injuries. Previous years he would play, now he don't need to.
     
  11. R0cketC1ty123

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    THIS IS DIFFERENT TMAC has a disease and artest doesnt
     
  12. Dave_78

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    I doubt there will be a ticker.

    What some people are failing to understand is that one guy actually has an injury while the other guy does not. One guy cannot get better without rest while the other guy cannot get better unless he plays.

    Tracy isn't injured.
    Tracy isn't injured.
    Tracy isn't injured.

    Let's all say it together so everyone understands.
     
  13. JeopardE

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    This is what cognitive dissonance does to the brain. It warps you into some kind of alternate reality and leaves you in an irrational, disjointed state.

    Rockets fans amaze me sometimes.
     
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    Post of the Year Rockets Fans where amazing happens
     
  15. Dave_78

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    Try again. The doctors have stated repeatedly that Tracy's knee is healed, structurally fine. Ron has tears in his ankle.

    Do you understand the difference between being hurt and being injured or do you just like using terms that don't apply to the situation?
     
  16. JVG>Adelman

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    This is a deceptive thread. You can't compare Artest and T-Mac.

    T-Mac has a history of feigning (insert excuse) _____ to skip games.

    Artest has a history of being a warrior, and toughness.

    Some of you fans exaggerate the real qualities of T-Mac. Open your eyes, and realize this T-Mac has many negative qualities that outweight his good. And with his age, and athelticism fading, his balance sheet is turning red.

    Trade him for a decent PG, and the Rockets will be improved.
     
  17. dookiester

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    talk about a non sequitur. the doctors think tmac can best strengthen his knee by playing on it. that doesn't mean that he can't get better if he doesn't play on it, nor does it mean that playing on it is the best option if he's playing with enough pain that he is both ineffective on the court (check) and likely to risk injury by favoring one knee instead of playing with proper balance (check).

    both ron and mac are hurting. one is supposed to get better by playing on it but is prohibited by pain. the other won't get worse by playing on it but is prohibited by plain. not identical, but clearly analogous, and the rationale for either sitting until the pain is more manageable is perfectly acceptable.
     
  18. rockets_fanatic

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    The doctors NEVER said playing Basketball games was the ONLY was to rehab Tracy's knee.

    DaDakoda. Wise up and pay attention. Tracy limping through games is not good for his game or for the team. He is not effective without that explosivness. Get over your hate for Tracy.
    Oh, remember you were referring to the second opinion Tracy went to get, in previous threads? Well that opinion was he should have time off!

    I am sick and tired of Rockets fans. Must be there air in Houston. You all b**** on the Internet, yet our home court is never full and always quiet.
     
  19. Shaud

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    Yeah that is why T-mac played more regular season games than Artest last year.
     
  20. JeopardE

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    Ahhh -- I get it now. The level of pain is irrelevant, and even so, the doctor's prescription is irrelevant. What matters is the STAGE of the injury. That's why T-Mac should be berated for choosing to sit out and rehab his knee because of the pain, and Ron Artest should get a pass for sitting out because of pain even though trainers have said it is OK for him to play on the ankle too.

    Wait, what?
     

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