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[NBA Fanhouse] Comment on Chron's "Injury Ticker"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ParaSolid, Dec 6, 2008.

  1. t_mac1

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    why would you have one for either of them when we could play without any of them if tracy is healthy?
     
  2. badgerfan

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    The Rockets can play without T-Mac. If you watched the Denver game Scott Hastings, one of the Nuggets announcers, even said that he thought that the Rockets looked better without T-Mac. That's not the reason why the Chronicle has that injury ticker up on their web page.
     
  3. agentkirb87

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    I don't buy it. Other players can step up, but in the long run we are going to need Tmac to win a title.
     
  4. optAmystik

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    The ticker is no longer displaying the dollar amount per the games missed. I wonder what propted this revision to the ticker. Did chron's Sports Editor find some mercy? Did someone with the Rockets organization give chron a piece of their mind?
     
  5. badgerfan

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    I don't disagree. Against the Lakers and the Celts the Rockets need all 3 guys healthy and in sync. That means all 3 guys playing the offense.
     
  6. Precision340

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    whether he was dogging it or not what the chronicle did was wrong.. that was classless to say the least
     
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    link?

    i recall reading that he wouldn't risk further injury by playing. perhaps i misunderstood.
     
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    McGrady's pronouncement that he would be on the shelf for most of December was a mild surprise to Rockets officials.

    After the 6-8 guard was evaluated by Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala. Monday, the team released a statement saying Dr. Andrews had confirmed the initial medical assessment of Rockets team physician Dr. Tom Clanton that McGrady is suffering from general soreness in his left knee related to his continuing rehabilitation from off season surgery.

    The statement said McGrady would continue his current rehab program designed to alleviate the discomfort in his knee, would likely miss a week and would continue to have his playing time restricted upon his return in order to lessen the stress on the injured knee."

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6143110.html
     
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    ^^ you're stretching that way thin to say he's going against doctors advice.
     
  10. Easy

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    Why are people still arguing whether TMac deserved to be poked fun of? That's not the issue.

    The issue is whether a supposedly reputable news media should do something like that, whether or not TMac deserves the chide. The answer is definitely NO. This kind of stuff belongs to a fan site like Clutchfans. Chron should be embarrassed by this.
     
  11. badgerfan

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    He's not going against his doctor's advice. He's been cleared to play and he's chosen not to. That's what's pissing people off.
     
  12. Sloth

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    Dude, did you check the stats for the series? Here are Yao's stats for each game in terms of points. 11, 33, 15, 20, 30, 8, 33

    Here are TMACs 34, 28, 28, 36, 25, 37, 26

    Explain to me how Yao performed great in this series? He didn't perform too poorly, but compared to TMAC, there is no comparison. And, how is 26 points in game seven "tanking it" from TMAC?? Do you remember how Yao got his 33 points? After we were already blown out, we ran TMAC/YAO pick and rolls and Yao got about 4 or 5 dunks in a meaningless 4th quarter.

    Don't say I'm wrong until you look at your stats.

    I'm not trying to hate on yao, i just want it to be fair. I'm just tired of seeing Yao only successful when we have a team that doesn't know how to play defense on him. All you need to do is front him or just shove on him until he loses his position. Then he will either turn it over or take a low percentage shot. And, not to mention, many times his hands aren't ready and he loses the pass and the turnover gets credited to the passer, not him.

    And then Yao will have a 37 point game because the defense is lazy and everyone will say, "see, that's what happens when you get yao touches. Just pass him the ****ing ball!" It's hard to pass to yao when he can only hold his position for 1 second.

    I know that TMAC gives of the persona of lazy with his slow style and lazy eye and everything. He also preaches all of his aches and pains. But the fact is that he loves this team and loves this town and he knows that the best thing for this team is for him to fully heal and recover before this becomes another wasted season rather than play a bunch of games where he is slow and ineffective and could potentially reinjure his knee, back, shoulder (which requires more surgury), or some new injury. How could anyone argue this?
     
  13. Sloth

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    It's easy to say that now. Try saying that to all of the fans who watched the end of the season or had season tickets?

    "guys, I'm packing it in. better luck next time."

    Of course, you are right if you think about this season, but you can't throw away last season when we did have a good team and had a chance. It was just the injuries that landry, battier, and rafer had on top of TMAC's that really hurt us.
     
  14. ibm

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    i believe mcgrady has a low tolerance level of pains. iirc jvg implied that for more than once as well. and that is no man's fault. if he feels the pain and can't deal with it like ron can during games, it's better to sit down.

    what piss me off are 2 things:

    1. what did he do this whole summer? i'm no doctor, but 5-6 months of rehab for a minor surgery isn't enough? seems a little out of common sense.

    2. more than one doctor say he'd better play through the pain in order to strengthen the knee. what makes his own opinion more credible than those of the doc's? given that he's the highest paid athlete in the team as well as a supposed leader, his self-claimed leave sure isn't something that's easy for a lot of fans to take easy.
     
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    we've gone through this. dr. andrews said he should miss a week and then can play BUT IN LIMITED MINUTES (less than what he averaged before). so what do you want tracy to do? play 6 mins here in the first, 2-3 mins in the 2nd and repeat? how is that going to help the team's chemistry when minutes are not how it should be distributed?

    and it's not like he'll play that way when he heals. so the team is not benefiting much in terms of others adjusting to how tracy really plays.

    you don't see the logic in that?
     
  16. t_mac1

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    uh really? i guess he liked how we played v. denver b/c they "toyed" with us to say the least.

    look, our record with tracy since he's been here speaks volume. and that's why people are frustrated. if tracy is healthy, we would OBVIOUSLY have a better reg. season record -> higher seed -> easier team to play in the first round. we went 10-5 with him through a very tough schedule. we lost 2 of the first 3 games without him before facing cupcakes.

    obviously fans, including the chron, have a lot invested in the team. when your best player misses time EVERY YEAR, it really hurts the team considering we win around 25% of our games without tracy.

    like i said, you don't hear the tracy talk anymore since we've won the past 2 games. and that's the reason. if we could win without tracy, none of this matters.

    if we win 60% of our games without tracy like we have without yao, none of this frustration would happen.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    he's the best player on the team. he will get the blame. and i don't mind that.

    people just need to recognize he does step up in the playoffs. and he will again this year.
     
  18. badgerfan

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    Dr. McGrady should be seeing patients if he's competent enough to prescribe his own treatments. As it stands now when he does get back, after three weeks or whatever, do you really expect him to play 35 minutes? I don't. He'll come off the bench and see limited minutes.
     
  19. badgerfan

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    That Hastings comment didn't come out of nowhere. It's a direct continuation of what the TNT guys--Magic, Kenny and Charles--said last year. It's the same thing people have been saying on this board. The ball moves better without McGrady. The offense looks better without McGrady. That's what Hastings was talking about.
     
  20. Shay

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    He didn't say that we are better without T-Mac , he said the ball movement looks better without T-Mac which is true because we have to , Luther and Wafer can't create shots by themselves.
     

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