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Week 4: Rockets player of the week!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ai_111, Nov 23, 2008.

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Who is the player of the week 4?

  1. T-Mac

    50 vote(s)
    14.4%
  2. Yao

    223 vote(s)
    64.3%
  3. Scola

    11 vote(s)
    3.2%
  4. Landry

    30 vote(s)
    8.6%
  5. Hayes

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
  6. ROn ROn

    19 vote(s)
    5.5%
  7. Brooks

    12 vote(s)
    3.5%
  8. Alston

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
  1. Th3 Drunk Goat

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    "He would of got my vote! Did you see the spiral on that 3 pointer yesterday?!!!!!!! :cool: " -Matt Bullard
     
  2. northeastfan

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    I vote for Yao. The big guy played pretty well; put up good numbers, drew the double teams which left shooters open and they finally made those shots.
     
  3. ai_111

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    1. Yao
    2. Artest/t-mac
    3. Landry/Brooks
     
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    i vote for Hayes, he is good at denfense.
     
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    I still go for Brooks who is undebatably the most high-lighted guy this week.
    Aaron Brooks is as good as he was in the past several weeks, in other words, no better than before. Aaron's own leverages are not enough to bring the third ROW for him, but another Brooks help him finished the job.

    Brooks took Carleslie's place to become the new headcoach of the OKC thunders.
     
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    很显然姚明是这一周的最佳球员。。上周姚明32投22中,命中率高达69%,他场均拿下19.7分10个篮板2.3次封盖,基本已经恢复了上赛季的身手。上周姚明出战的3场比赛,火箭取得全胜,包括他彻底压倒魔术德怀特-霍华德的那场比赛。

    巨人的极限——前辈的轨迹,姚明的未来


    过去若干年,我们已经看见太多人把一己的虚荣心与情感托诸于一个对他毫无亏欠的巨人,这种群体性偶尔激发的谩骂、仇恨和肆意歪曲很容易让人辨认出,有某些人不愿意倾听,而只愿意发表一些言论,以证明其对自己发表抨击言论的热情,远甚于对篮球的兴趣。鉴于本文枯燥乏味,那些同学可能更适合关闭本页面,或跳到结尾看结论。
    以上敬告。




    1982年,犹他爵士在第三轮第72位,挑了位加油站工人。对该加油站顾客来说,这消息不坏——你每天进站,看见一条北极熊似的汉子过来给你服务,想必您老也自在不起来。盐湖城百姓则对此不甚乐意,因为这位先生虽然洁身自好、谈吐斯文,胳膊粗得赶上小孩腰,但在UCLA只打过41分钟。当时,爵士拿来搪塞球迷的口号是:“啥都能教出来,除了身高。”

    按红衣主教大人说这话时,60年代,联盟里有个7英尺(213公分)而且还能在10秒内挪进前场,就算是块活宝了。但是身高这事和人世大多数事儿一样,有其极限。比如,咱们数一数NBA史上进名人堂的,自矮到高,最高的7尺2寸(218公分)。往上呢?没了。

    因此,我划下这条线:221公分及以上,一个没有名人堂球员的身高段。


    1993年选了布拉德利做榜眼的76人总裁,这时急眼了吧?号啕了吧?想学伍子胥提鞭子去找红衣主教坟墓了吧?这时就得有个牛鼻子道士,叠两根手指,与你说道说道。倒霉的不只您一个,咱们细细算来。

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    首先,NBA史上所有7尺3(221公分)以上球员,计有如下人等。数据摘自http://www.basketball-reference.com

    7尺3(221公分):兰迪·布略尔,凯斯·克罗斯,马克·伊顿,斯威德·哈尔布鲁克,伊尔戈斯卡斯,阿维达斯·萨博尼斯,河胜镇

    7尺4(224公分):普列斯特·劳德达尔,拉尔夫·桑普森,里克·施密茨

    7尺5(226公分):查克·内维特,肖恩·布拉德利

    7尺6(229公分):马奴特·波尔,姚明

    7尺7(231公分):乔治·穆雷桑

    合计15名221公分以上巨人。
    (当然,该网站数据略有疏误。比如布拉德利应为229公分,姚明则可能更倾向226公分。今从俗。)

    这其中,凯斯·克罗斯打了两季,合计得不到500分,忽略。
    斯威德·哈尔布鲁克打了两季,786分,忽略。
    河胜镇一季27场,44分,忽略。
    劳德达尔两季,255分,忽略。
    内维特三季113场,合计得了190分,忽略。

    去掉5位。意即,221公分以上巨人,真正算是在NBA打球而非被拿来当吉祥物的,10人而已。

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    余下名单:
    221公分:兰迪·布略尔,马克·伊顿,伊尔戈斯卡斯,阿维达斯·萨博尼斯

    224公分:拉尔夫·桑普森,里克·施密茨

    226公分:肖恩·布拉德利

    229公分:马奴特·波尔,姚明

    231公分:乔治·穆雷桑



    这10位,又分为三类:
    第一类:仙风道骨型。
    代表:
    波尔,231公分,长期保持9-公斤以上、100公斤以下体重。
    布拉德利——大家都很熟悉了。
    布略尔,221公分,100公斤左右。
    拉尔夫·桑普森,1986年与大梦携手同闯总决赛时,224公分的他是联盟最高的大前锋。


    第二类:熊罴当道型。
    代表:
    马克·伊顿,雷神大人入行时已有122公斤开外。
    萨博尼斯,来NBA时上半身已宽大绝伦,还顶着NBA最大的脑袋。


    第三类:发奋图胖型。
    代表:
    姚明……
    穆雷桑——不很确定,但1997年的他确实比1995年似乎壮一点。
    施密茨/伊尔戈斯卡斯——情况类似:入行时和如今麦蒂一样重,退役时多少白胖了些。

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    三类球员的特点分别是啥?我们从瘦子们着手。

    马纽特"波尔直到31岁他才开始受伤,在此之前,他有连续七季至少71场的记录,但是,只在第一季打了60场首发。他实在太瘦,除了盖帽外一无是处……七季之中,除了首季的2090分钟外,其他时刻,他全季出场,都在1200至1500一线盘旋。

    与他策略相同的,是我们熟悉的扣篮背景大师肖恩"布拉德利先生。他老人家职业生涯打了832场职业比赛,32岁的退役季仍有77场的出赛。他是波尔的加强版,但代价是职业生涯仅有一季场均打满30分钟,其他时间,他都是球队的首发或主力替补,大多在半场至大半场之间。他每季上场时间大多在2000分钟至2300分钟之间,在30岁后则降到1000分钟以下。
    兰迪"布略尔在NBA打了十一年。从24岁到31岁,他的出场数分别是:78、82、76、81、48、81、73、67。而平均时间,大多在场均20分钟以下。
    一个值得注意的事:他27岁那年出赛81场,场均28分钟,全季职业生最高的2258分钟。然后?下一季他开始受伤,只打了513分钟。

    我们总结一下,瘦子中锋们的特征:体重轻,出场数多,受伤少;代价是能力差、上场时间少。典型数据:每季76次以上出场,场均20分钟左右。

    记下一个数字:2300+分钟。这是布拉德利和布略尔职业生涯单季极限时间。


    有人超越这个时间不?有。迄今为止,最有成就的220公分以上选手,同样是个瘦子,那就是火箭队史上赫赫有名的拉尔夫"桑普森。新秀季他每个月都拿下该月新秀头衔,场均21分11个篮板,第三季甚至与奥拉朱旺组成双塔,轰倒湖人,进入1986年总决赛。他前三季上场时间分别是:2693分钟、3086分钟、2864分钟。
    但是,但从26岁开始到31岁退役的六季,合计仅出阵了213场。在这期间,他最多的一季仅有1663分钟。


    然后讨论瘦子变胖型。
    乔治·穆雷桑,1995-96季拿下年度最快进步球员头衔,当季2242分钟。在他的短暂职业生涯中,连续三季1720、2242和1849分钟出场,然后,25岁,就离开了NBA——再归来时已是年近而立,打了几场就消失了。
    里克"斯密茨,自22岁到27岁,他的上场时间始终在1700分钟到2100分钟之间——仅有第二季的2404分钟略为高扬。在28岁时,他的场均出赛第一次超过30分钟,得分也创下场均17.9分的新高,全季出场2381分钟,超过2300分钟一线。然后呢?
    次年,场均18.5分,63场;再次年,17.1分,52场。以后五季,只有一季出场时间超过2000分钟。
    伊尔戈斯卡斯,近三季出场稳定在2300分钟以下,今年更是到了场均只战27分钟。


    萨博尼斯来到NBA时已30岁,双膝近于报废。但他小心谨慎,打到了38岁。看下他的出场时间:除了1997-98季的2333分钟外,他最多的一季是1762分钟。他每场的时间大多数时候在27分钟以下。


    当然,回到开头的马克·伊顿大人。按理说,他犯了所有的忌讳——重型、高龄——但一直打到37岁。36岁之前,他每季至少打79场比赛,有三季超过2700分钟。
    他不受“2300分钟”线的制约?注意两个事:他职业生涯875场只得5216分,职业生涯只有两季场均打34分钟。



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    以下是本文的重点。



    1 221公分以上的巨人,在NBA成功者寥寥。

    2 瘦子型巨人们绝大多数职业生涯都担任替补或出场时间稀少,但较为健康。壮硕型巨人们绝大多数体重与地位成正比,但其场均出场与其出战场数成反比。

    3 减少进攻端任务、体重、场均出战时间,显著有利于中锋们延长职业寿命。

    4 单季2300分钟是巨人们的一条临界线,换算为单季70场(NBA规定的能纳入数据统计的健康线),则为场均33分钟。强韧耐劳如马克·伊顿,职业生涯也仅有两季超过此线,而如他这样的例子,NBA史上也仅有一位。



    重新回到主题:
    2002-03季,场均29分钟,出场82次,2383分钟。
    2003-04季,场均33分钟,出场82次,2692分钟。
    2004-05季,场均31分钟,出场80次,2447分钟。


    2005-06季,场均34分钟,出场57次,1949分钟。
    2006-07季,场均34分钟,出场48次,1624分钟。
    2007-08季,场均37分钟,出场55次,2044分钟。

    以上是姚明的出场时间。

    本季以来,姚明场均出手12.5次,5.1次罚球,均创2003-04季以来的最少记录;场均打35.5分钟,较上季已有下降。这是一个正确的倾向——但,这依然是马克·伊顿职业生涯最高的场均出场时间。



    我无意夸张姚明的意义,只是想说明一下:在221公分一线及以上这些没有入过名人堂的球员中,他在2005-06季和上季完成的场均二位数篮板记录,此前只有拉尔夫·桑普森和萨博尼斯完成过,一共四次。

    同时,2006-07季姚明场均25分,以及他上季的场均22.3分,NBA史上此前没有任何一位221公分以上巨人完成过。

    因此,如果接下来,他的上场时间、出手次数和体重会继续减少,请看一看以上巨人们的晚年伤病。然后,再次确认这个事实:抛掉外界强加的无数意义,他只是一个在休斯顿为雇主及其团队打球的运动员。他所做的规避伤病(体育以健康为本)、延长职业生涯的任何行为,都是正当合理的。如此而已。
     
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    It is clear that Yao is the best player of the week. . Last week, Yao Ming 32 for 22, hit as high as 69% of his field were won by 19.7 points 2.3 rebounds in 10 sub-capping, has been restored on the basic skill of the season. Last week, Yao's play 3 games, the Rockets made a total victory, including his Magic Dwight completely overwhelming - Howard's game.

    Giants limits - of the older generation of track, in the future Yao Ming of the


    Over the past several years, we have seen too many people to their own vanity and emotional care from him in a giant owed no such group inspired by the occasional verbal abuse, hatred and deliberate distortion is easy to identify, Some people do not want to listen, but only willing to make a few remarks in order to prove that their remarks published criticism of the enthusiasm of Yuanshen Yu's interest in basketball. In this paper, in view of the dry, those students may be better suited to close this page, or jump to conclusions at the end to see.
    More than advise.




    In 1982, the Utah Jazz in the third round 72, pick-up gas station workers. The gas station customers, this news is not bad - you stop every day to see a polar bear-like man come to you, you old must also not comfortable with. Salt Lake City, people are not happy then, as though this gentleman Clean living, refined style of conversation, the arms have to catch up with the rough kids back, but UCLA only played 41 minutes. At that time, Jazz fans used to stall with the slogan: "Shadou be able to teach, in addition to height."

    Cardinal by adults say this, 60's, the Union has a 7 ft in (213 cm) but also in Norway within 10 seconds into the game before, and even block the Stooges. But is this the same thing, and most of the world, there are limits. For example, a few of our number in the history of NBA into the Hall of Fame, since low to high, the highest in the 7-foot 2-inch (218 cm). It up? Has not.

    Therefore, I draw the line: 221 cm and above, a height above the Hall of Fame player.


    1993年选了布拉德利做榜眼的76人总裁,这时急眼了吧? A cry, right? Wu Zixu wanted to learn how to whip the tomb to look for the Cardinal, right? At this time you have a Taoist priest Niubi Zi, overlapping two fingers, and said you said. You not only bad one, let's careful calculation.

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    First of all, NBA in the history of all the 7-foot 3 (221 cm) or more players, including the following people, and so on. Data from http://www.basketball-reference.com

    7 foot 3 (221 cm): Landi Bu slightly Seoul,凯斯克罗斯, Mark Dayton,斯威德哈尔Brook, Ilgauskas, Aweidasi Sabonis, Ha Seung-jin

    7-foot 4 (224 cm): Preston Telao De Darfur,拉尔夫桑普森, Rick Schmitz

    5 foot 7 (226 cm): Chuck Nevitt, Sean Bradley

    7 foot 6 (229 cm): Ma slave Te Boer, Yao Ming

    7-foot 7 (231 cm): Qiao Zhimu Leisang

    Total 15 221 centimeters over the Giants.
    (Of course, some data sparse site of the error. For example, Bradley should be 229 cm, while Yao Ming may be more inclined to 226 centimeters. From this custom.)

    Among these, the凯斯克罗斯played two seasons for a total of 500 points are not neglected.
    Brook played two quarters of斯威德哈尔, 786 points and lose sight of.
    Ha Seung-jin quarter 27, 44, ignored.
    Laodedaer two quarters, 255 minutes, ignore.
    Nevitt three quarters of 113 games, scored a total of 190 points, ignored.

    5 removed. This means that, more than 221 cm giant, is a real play in the NBA, rather than being used as the mascot, no more than 10 people.

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    The rest of the list:
    221 cm: Landi Bu slightly Seoul, Mark Dayton, Ilgauskas, Sabonis Eweidasi

    224 cm:拉尔夫桑普森, Rick Schmitz

    226 cm: Sean Bradley

    229 cm: Ma slave Te Boer, Yao Ming

    231 cm: Qiao Zhimu Leisang



    This is 10, divided into three categories:
    The first category: Xianfengdaogu type.
    :
    Boer, 231 cm long-term 9 - kg, 100 kg weight.
    Bradley - we are all familiar with.
    Cloth slightly Seoul, 221 cm, 100 kg.
    拉尔夫桑普森, in 1986 with a dream hand in hand into the finals with, he is 224 cm Union's top power forward.


    The second category: bear-brown bear is in power.
    :
    Mark Dayton, Raytheon adults to have when 122 kilograms away.
    Sabonis, to the upper body when the NBA has absolutely generous, but also under the greatest NBA head.


    The third category: fat-map to strenuously.
    :
    Yao Ming ... ...
    Mulei Sang - is not, but in 1997 than he did in 1995 appears to be a little strong.
    Schmitz / Ilgauskas - a similar situation: when to Tracy McGrady and now the same weight, when the number of retired Baipan something.

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    The three players are the characteristics of what? We have to proceed from the Shouzi.

    Ma Niute "Boer until the 31-year-old began his injuries, Prior to that, he had seven consecutive quarters of record at least 71 games, but only to play in the first quarter of the first 60 games. He is too thin, in addition to blocks outside devoid of any merit ... ... Quarter of seven, in addition to the first quarter of 2090 minutes, the other time he played the whole season, in 1200-1500 circled line.

    The same strategy with him, we are familiar with the background of the dunk master Sean "Mr. Bradley. His old career field hit 832 career games, the 32-year-old retired there was still 77 games out of the race. He is a Boer The enhanced version, but the price is only a quarter of the career field play all 30 minutes at other times, he is the team's first major or replacement, most of the half-court in Tai between the half-court. He play on a quarterly basis in most of the time 2000-2300 minutes, 30-year-old was dropped after 1000 minutes of the following.
    Randy "a little cloth Seoul in the NBA playing for 11 years. From the 24-year-old to 31-year-old, he's played a few are: 78,82,76,81,48,81,73,67. And the average amount of time, most of the scene All of the following 20 minutes.
    It is worth noting that one thing: his 27-year-old that year, a 81-game tournament, games are 28 minutes, all career quarter of 2258 minutes of the highest of Health. Then? He injured the beginning of next season, only 51 3 minutes.

    We have to sum up, Shouzai center's features: light weight, played a few more, fewer injuries; price is poor, the less time to play. Typical data: more than 76 appearances on a quarterly basis, both market 2 0 minutes.

    A note of a number: 2300 + minutes. This is the cloth and Bradley little Seoul career single-season limit of time.


    It was not the time to cross that threshold?有. So far, the most successful players over 220 cm, is the same Shouzai, it is well-known in the history of the Rockets Ralph "Sampson. Rookie season he won every month on the rookie title, have 21 points game 11 rebounds in the third quarter, even with the composition of the Twin Towers Olajuwon, Hong Lakers back into the finals in 1986. He played the first three quarters of the time: 2693 minutes, 3086 minutes and 2864 minutes.
    However, the 26-year-old from the start to 31-year-old retired six of the quarter for a total of only 213 Hsing field. In the meantime, he is only up to 1663 minutes of the previous quarter.


    And then discuss Shouzai-fat.
    Qiao Zhimu Lei Sang-96 season between 1995 and won the annual title of the fastest players progress, quarter 2242 minutes. In his short career, three in a row 1720,2242 and 1849 minutes played, and then, the 25-year-old, left the NBA - and then returned in recent years, is already standing, played a few games disappeared.
    Rick "Smith Mainz, since the 22-year-old to 27-year-old, he's always time to play in the 1700 minutes to 2100 minutes - only in the second quarter of 2404 minutes a little high. In the 28-year-old, he had games of the match For the first time more than 30 minutes, also a record field were scoring 17.9 points to a new high, all-out quarter of 2381 minutes, more than 2300 minute line. What?
    The following year, the field were 18.5 points, 63 games; again, 17.1 points, 52 games. After five quarters, only quarter of the time off over 2000 minutes.
    Ilgauskas, nearly three quarters of play in the stability of the 2300 minutes of the following year is more to the war games are only 27 minutes.


    Sabonis came to the NBA when 30-year-old, scrapped knees in the past. But be careful, hitting a 38-year-old. Data out of his time: In addition to the 2333 minutes of the 1997-98 season, he was up to 1762 minutes of the quarter. He each time when the majority of the 27 minutes.


    Of course, back to the beginning of the adults and Mark Dayton. Reason, he made a taboo of all - heavy, old age - but has hit 37-year-old. 36-year-old, he played on a quarterly basis, at least 79 games, three more than 2700 minutes.
    He is not "2300 minutes" of constraints line? Attention to two things: his 875 career games only 5216 points, a career field are only two quarters of play 34 minutes.



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    Following is the focus of this article.



    1 221 cm above the giant, very successful in the NBA.

    2-Shouzi giants are the vast majority of his career as a substitute or playing time scarce, but relatively healthy. Ju-burly weight with the vast majority of people in direct proportion to the status, but were off their game a few inversely proportional to the battlefield.

    3 to reduce the offensive end of the task, weight, games played all the time, the center will help significantly extend their professional life.

    4 one-quarter of 2300 minutes of the giants is a critical line, converted into 70 single-season games (NBA provided statistical data can be integrated into the health of the line), the market for all 33 minutes. Tough-working, such as Mark Dayton, is also the only career for more than two quarters of this line, and if he is such a case, NBA history have only one.



    Return to the theme:
    2002-03 season, all games 29 minutes, played 82 times in 2383 minutes.
    2003-04 season, all games 33 minutes out of 82 times 2692 minutes.
    2004-05 season, all games 31 minutes, played 80 times in 2447 minutes.


    2005-06 season, all games 34 minutes, played 57 times in 1949 minutes.
    2006-07 season, all games 34 minutes, played 48 times in 1624 minutes.
    2007-08 season, all games 37 minutes, played 55 times in 2044 minutes.

    Yao Ming is more than the time off.

    This season, Yao Ming hit the market were 12.5 times and 5.1 times free throws, all achieving at least the 2003-04 season since records; games are played 35.5 minutes, has been dropped from the previous quarter. This is a tendency in the right - but this is still the highest career, Mark Dayton of the market are out of time.



    I do not want to exaggerate the significance of Yao Ming, just want to explain: In the first 221 cm and above have not been into the Hall of Fame player, he was in the 2005-06 season and the last quarter of the field are recorded double-digit rebounds, after only drawing尔夫桑普森and Sabonis have been completed, a total of four times.

    At the same time, 2006 and quarter-07 games Yao Ming had 25 points and his field in the previous quarter were 22.3 points, NBA earlier in the history of no more than a 221 cm giant completed.

    Therefore, if followed, his playing time, the number of hand and will continue to reduce weight, please take a look at these giants of the old injury. Then, once again confirmed this fact: getting rid of many of the outside world to impose meaning, he was only in Houston for an employer and his team of athletes to play. He made to avoid injury (sports-oriented health), to extend the career of any acts are legitimate and rational. One.
     
  8. hotblooded

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    Holy mother of mercy

    NO ONE UNDERSTANDS
     
  9. Norway's Winter

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    WoW, although I valued what the bench guys did this week, Yao should get this for his strong back on court. It feels good on these guys 'cuz they seem to find a good way to play. Maybe INSIDE-OUT is not the right way ADELMAN like the team to play, but it's still effective. Landry and Brooks posted high efficiency and helped Big3 a lot. So to dear Rox's guys --> just keep healthy and win more games ;)
     
  10. Alvin Choo

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    very nice job, but i really hope there is a better translator around. If i had not read the mandarin version first, i would have no idea what your tread meant.
     
  11. djimi

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    Yao cos he brought me outta my seat with that dunk over McGhee which was a spark plug for the win against the Wizards and cos he owned Mr. Pink....ooops i mean Dwight Howard:D
     

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