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Tmac and Yao - Slow and slower

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Nov 20, 2008.

  1. RoyiLi

    RoyiLi New Member

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    T-MAC is very good without injuer
     
  2. badgerfan

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    He said he cares just enough to show up but not enough to actually play hard. I wouldn't take that as a compliment.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I think he cares, I just think he is scared.

    DD
     
  4. rockets-#1

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    *Grunch*

    Nice OP, Double D. I agree with all of that.... except trading for Starbury, lol that's not the answer.

    It's really sad though, those two aren't themselves anymore. :(
     
  5. leebigez

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    I think both guys are playing hurt. DD, some people respond to surgery differently. In a ideal scenerio, shane is healthy and tracy is either sitting or playing 25 mins working back slowly. Also ideally, Yao has deke,elson,mihm, or mbenga and he's playing 27 mins working himself back. Sadly for us, shane is hurt and our backup c is 6'5 because the gm doesn't see anyone that can help better than our current bigs. I'm kinda pissed at morey because la has 7 guys over 6'10 and we have 1. What sense does that make? I didn't graduate from m.I.t., but anyone with basketball sense can tell that's a bad proportion .
     
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    Well said. Agreed.

    I just love the T-mac&Yao's combo. Now I love the Big Three.

    Why? I've been watching them play for several years. They are the core of Houston Rockets. Of course, we expect much more like a O'brian Cup and it looks like they do have the talent and potential there to get it. But hell yeah, nothing is perfect. Due to kinds of reasons, they havent done it.

    This year, we got Ron and formed the Big Three. Though two of our big three are no longer doing good as they used to be, I still love to watch this team to melt and grow together. Sure, some people might say 'only if they stay healthy'. I'd agree. Personally , I would like to play this bet and see what's going on till the end of this season.
     
  7. william1977

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    so i suggest we should give Tmac and Yao more time to have a rest, we should also give someone else more chances.
     
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    Anyone calling TMac "mentally weak" or "mentally soft" needs to look in the mirror. We're 7-5 even though we aren't playing that well, and many of you are ready to abandon ship. What's sad as that I can't even post about the Rockets any more bc I feel obligated to tell some of you how weak your attitude is. Man up! Support your team! If you think we suck that bad or you really dislike our players so much....leave. Stop posting. Your constant negative BS is helping nobody and you aren't as witty as you think.
     
  9. Nitro1118

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    I have only read the first page, but I have a real problem with this. They don't say that his knee is fine...they say it is at a point where he can play through the pain. That does NOT mean it doesn't hurt him, and it does NOT mean that his mentality is the only culprit.

    I also have a problem with you simply saying his pain is from the arthroscopic surgery...did you follow T-Mac last year? Arthroscopic surgeries are just to remove loose bodies, but what hampered him last year was a deep bone bruise that kept him out for a month (same injury that kept Marvin Harrison out all of last year). His problem with the knee goes beyond simply removing loose bodies.

    Is T-Mac's confidence shot right now? Yes. That is very, very clear. He is used to being the top player on the court and being one of the most athletic wings in the game. You cannot just tell someone to toughen up and play 110% through the pain...everyone heals at a different pace, and lord knows T-Mac has had enough injuries to know what his limitations are and how to play himself back to shape. It is on ADELMAN to realize that if T-Mac's level of play warrants benching him a few weeks to fully rehab that knee.

    On a final note, the scariest part of his injury is that he started off the season nicely. In the Celtics and Blazers game he did look close to his athleticism level in 06-07 (which, up until this year, was his worst year athletically). However, since that Blazers game, he has looked worse and worse, which is very concerning for a player that doctors say should be getting better as he plays more games.
     
  10. shakegod

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    who is slower,Tmac or Yao?Tmac have to learn how to win a game from,keep the appetite of winning the match.
     
  11. llRainmanll

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    it's way too early in the season to make any assumptions, plus, you're comparing a playoff series to the regular season, that's a terrible comparison, everyone plays harder in the playoffs, or at least try harder, so just wait until we find our offense and t-mac gets healthy, same with yao, battier, artest.
     
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    DD you just NAILED IT in this thread....... Thank you!
     
  13. Carladyfan

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    yao's problem is always his conditioning, can't understand how he comes in looking fat and slow sometimes, and another day he look fit(when he keeps his weight down), what's up with that, he need to keep his weight down, that's called consistency imo, whoever the trainer or physician for the team is needs to wise up or get replaced asap, or maybe it's just a problem with yao being stupid with his diet, stop eating whatever mommy feeds you.
     
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    Agree, the rockets need athletic size in the worst way possible. Morey has been a huge disappointment in not addressing this major issue. I'm very surprised that he's gambled on Yao's health. Both Scola and Hayes need a running start to dunk a basketball and that was your starting frontline against the Mavericks. If the rockets had to play the Blazers in the 1st round of the playoffs, they would be in trouble.
     
  15. Russjr2

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    Morey is not done making moves. Give Dorsey a chance to show himself in practice, eventually he will make his way on to the court. Deke will be back as well. Those two players will shore up the paint for rebounds.
     
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    There may be some merit to your observation DD, as Robert Frost put it so eloquently, " Success does not always come to the best man, but to those who think they can."

    I just wish we could see more games like that Phoenix game from him.

    That being said , there is also a saying that " when the legs are gone, the heart and the mind will follow." ;)
     
  17. Russjr2

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    All OPINION...

    We are 12 games in and the bashing has already started. The bad play can be spread around to atleast 5 guys, Yao, T-Mac, Alston, Barry, and Artest. All of those guys are not playing up to their averages 'right now'. It takes time for a team to gel and figure out what their roles are. Not to mention Shane is not in the rotation yet. Not to mentin a really tough schedule this month. We knew that going in. I'm not alarmed, we will be a very good team once everyone is back and the rotation is determined and Morey makes his trade(s).
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yes, it is clearly my opinion, which is why I said "I think"....

    It is my observation, nothing more.....however, I am pretty darned observent.

    :D

    DD
     
  19. leebigez

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    So again a team looking for a title and we're down to hoping for 6'7 rookie center to be the answer? Even dream had earl cureton and charles jones as a backup not to mention thorpe could play there also.
     
  20. professorjay

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    I agree these guys look a step slower than a few years ago. Yao needs to catch the ball in the post and immediately go for a hook or face up jumper. When he takes 5 seconds trying to post, he's much more likely to get blocked or stripped. He's usually money when he catches and shoots.
     

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