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It is time to clean house!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LEWIS LLOYD2, Apr 5, 2002.

  1. LEWIS LLOYD2

    LEWIS LLOYD2 Member

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    The Rockets are going nowhere now and in the future, This experiment has failed and it is time to clean house. The best the Rockets will do in the next few years is maybe an 8th to 10th spot in the west. 3 years no playoffs, It is time to start over these guys do not have what it takes to win in the western conference. If they were in the east than it would be different.



    Lewis Lloyd the highest shooting percentage guard in NBA history.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Teams that clean house NEVER get better.

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  3. LEWIS LLOYD2

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    Man that was quick Dadakota, You must be hot on my trail after every post I write. What no weak and offbeat jokes on a real Rockets player Lewis Lloyd.
     
  4. Drewdog

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    Yep I have to say I agree with you on this one DaDa :D
     
  5. Htownhero

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    What experiment are you talking about?

    So what guys do you suggest? I sure would like to see these guys that come into the league and dominate it. Here I was thinking you had to get a team and give it time to gel. Man do I feel dumb. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Nova

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    START OVER??? Oh jeez no! Give it a little more time, i think they'll make the playoffs next season and be serious title contenders in another two seasons or so. The teams just needs to develop together and make a few tweaks, like get rid of Collier, Langhi, Brown, and get a good big man with the pick somehow.
     
  7. RunninRaven

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    The politics of failure have failed. We must make them work again!
     
  8. BigM

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    wow a whole 3 years and no playoffs, maybe we should have just the let the whole team move. :rolleyes:
     
  9. cheshire

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    I feel the Rockets have been running the same tired iso offense and instead of improving and building on last year, they are regressing. Hmm...gives everyone plenty to think about.

    Injuries can only be used so many times as an excuse. Losing is not such a bitter pill to take if the Rockets got beaten playing hard for 48 minutes. But more often than not, they lapse into huge droughts where they can't concentrate, hustle on D or protect the ball. These are the biggest reasons why they can't win, won't win and more likely than not, be lottery bound again next year.

    The individual talent is there, youth is there, potential is there but as Dream's favourite whipping boy said in an interview, " Houston's got a lot of good one-on-one players." That won't cut in the NBA.

    We need a Ben Wallace badly...someone who cleans the glass and blocks shots like Dream. But it won't happen bar a miracle.

    Even fully healthy, I can't see this team in its present state make the play-offs. Everyone keeps talking the talk but they keep repeating the same mental lapses week in, week out...

    Wonder if we have a real shot at Duncan...i would trade everyone bar Francis and start again...at least Rudy will have his bigman and a pg...if he can't do something with that.. then he should do the right thing and resign...
     
  10. cheshire

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    We've been spoilt by the successes of the past, I just don't want Houston to become a Dallas and take something like 15 years to win a division title. Or continue this awful trend of losing 15 of 16 games against the Spurs...at least they are not the Jazz.

    I'd like to think that they'll make the play-offs next year but unless something magically cures their consistent mental lapse in games...lottery is where I see them going...

    Just an idea, what about looking for new coach to bring in a new perspective and approach in Houston. I wouldn't mind bringing Jerry Sloan in if he is available. I reckong he can make a real impact here. Then I would put Rudy T. in the front office somewhere.
     
  11. red

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    at first you dont succeed...erase all evidence that you even tried...
     
  12. Roc Paint

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    I think the BBS needs to clean house.
    I know this season has been a real disappointment, but I am sick and tired of most of you posters lately.
    clean house, trade Francis, get rid of Rudy........on and on and on.
    I don't mean to pick on you Lewis, but talking about cleaning house after an injury plauged season, is just Bull $hit.
     
  13. kidrock8

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    Injuries or not, this team has regressed.
     
  14. Jeff

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    I think we should trade all of our players for 12 picks in the draft. That way, we could start completely over. We'd be like an expansion team and go to the playoffs our second year. We'd be awesome!!!

    <font size="1">I was saying Boo-urns</font>
     
  15. GATER

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    It's a little hard to clean house when your 2 highest paid players (Taylor & Rice) are on the injured list and the 3rd highest paid (Cato) only averages 25 mpg.
     
  16. ZRB

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    See how they do next year before cleaning house. If the Rockets do get healthy, and they manage to pick up an Odom, or a Lewis, then I don't doubt that they'll make the playoffs.

    There is no doubt in my mind that this team has regressed. Not only from last season, but from the season before that. Does anyone remember the 99-00 season? The Rockets finished by winning six of eight games, mostly against playoff teams like Portland, Seattle, Utah, and Phoenix. They also took it to teams like Golden State and Atlanta, winning a stretch of games by around 30 points per contest. What was the starting lineup for that team? Francis, Anderson, Williams, Thomas, and Cato, with Mobley coming off the bench. No, I am not saying that Mobley should be a bench player. That just shows how similar that team was with this year's team in terms of talent.

    The biggest problem the Rockets have had for the last two years is their lack of consistent focus, intensity, and desire. They just don't "bring it" every night. Last year, the Rockets missed the playoffs by two games. In the stretch drive, they lost to the Clippers, Nuggets, and Nets. Overall, they lost nine games against sub-500 teams. If the Rockets had given it their best effort every game last year, they would have been a 50+ win team. You can not tell me that Denver was good enough to win three of four over Houston last year.

    This year has been even worse. The Rockets would be close to .500 if they had taken care of teams that obviously have far less talent. Only this team could lose at home to Golden State, win three in a row over playoff teams, and come home to lose to the Bulls. The Rockets NEVER set the tone in any game. They NEVER come out and play tough defense from the start, and they rarely shoot well from the field. They fall into whatever style of play the other team is using, and they almost always end up getting burned. If this happens against a playoff team, the Rockets usually get down by heaps, make a valiant run to make the score close, and end up losing. If this happens against a lottery squad, then they almost always get blown out of the building.

    The Rockets bring it for 24 minutes against good teams, and usually just three or four against the crap of the league. That's why this team was swept by the Bulls and Cavs, and that's why they have lost by an average of 18 points in Memphis.

    Yes, the offensive execution is a problem. Yes, Steve's playmaking can be a problem (though I believe more than ever that he has regressed only because of his injuries, because when the Rockets did play hard last year, he did a damn fine job running the team), but they do not compare to the biggest problem: lack of effort. That lack of effort is responsible for the worst defense played by any NBA team since the 80s, and that is why the Rockets are crap this year.

    I'm hoping that the injuries have just demoralized them, and that they will come out next year looking to pound every single team to the ground, rather than just trying to keep pace and hoping for a Moochie miracle in the end. Obviously, losing so many players has hurt this team's psyche, and robbed them of the talent needed to win in this league. That is still no excuse for coming out and stinking it up against a team like Memphis. Effort should always be there. Winning just two of 22 without Steve is also inexcusable. That record is beyond the worst in the league. It's a joke. Any kind of defense played by the Rockets would have resulted in that streak being three or four games, not fifteen.

    So lets see how the Rockets do next year. If they still come out and just show up half the time, then Rudy should be fired, and some major trades should take place. If the Rockets miss the playoffs again, then the entire organization should be rebuilt, including the front office. This team has too much talent to miss the playoffs again.
     
  17. LEWIS LLOYD2

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    Roc Paint, Yes they should clean house on the bbs maybe starting with you. So you could never pick on me. Injuries you say? many teams have injuries and they are still playing well. The Rockets are not a good team heathly or injured. Injuries are a part of every team and they still have to find a way to win with injuries. The Rockets need to be rebuilt to withstand injuries. They need debth and better players. The players they have are not high quality players. Despite the fans in Houston stuffing the ballot boxes there are no all stars in Houston.
     
  18. Monkey7392

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    What!? Start over?:mad: Are you friggin crazy. HOw long has this team been together? 2 what 3 years come on obviously you dont know what the word rebuilding means. Come on, look at Minnasota, seriously theyve spent 7 years building their team like that, a healthy Rockets team could beat Minnasota right now and weve been here for 3 years with this team. Look we all know Rudy is a genious and He will coach them into another championship. If you ask me the only team in the NBA thats needs to clean house is the Knicks :p
     
  19. Deckard

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    I wish I was out of debth... I wish I had a clean house;), but more than anything else, I HOPE that Steve gets over his headaches. I'm most concerned about that. The other injured guys will come back strong, we'll get something good from our pick/picks this summer, and someone will drag Kelvin's a$$ to a bigman camp (please!). Everything else being equal, we should improve on the 45-37 of last year and make some noise in the playoffs. But I'm worried about Stevie.
     
  20. outlaw

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    The experiment that Rudy can coach a guard-oriented team. His success stemed from having a big man as the focus of a team and we should go back to that philosophy.

    Francis + Mobley = Jermaine O'Neal + Ron Artest
     

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