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give yao the damn ball man

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by iku, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. SevereCr1tic

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    Very noble cause. I really like it.

    Seriously, if you are not blind, there are as many Tmac only fans and Yao only fans around here these days. The fact that you have never tried to straightened out the Tmac only fans speaks volume. So your 'noble cause' is also a very selective one, isn't it? If you really want to talk about the only fans, I think your continuous and relentless bashing on a specific player (ie Yao) makes you a only fan too, just in a negative sense. Walks like a duck, talks like a duck. Like someone has said, you come across as very much a hypocrite.
     
  2. SevereCr1tic

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    Seriously, if you are not blind, there are as many Tmac only fans as Yao only fans around here these days...
     
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    Amazing, seven years later and ppl are still whining about Yao not getting the ball enough.

    Some of the Yao fans still don't get it, they may never get it anyway: Yao is not as good a player as they want him to be.

    It is the seventh year now and you guys have to quit living in your fantasy thinking about the only reason Yao is not the MDE (most dominant ever) is because of other players and coaches.

    You guys have to deal with reality, seriously.
     
  4. Cowboy_Bebop

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    @leebigez

    You just got own. "A real Rockets fan"? More like a real Yao hater. From most of your posts about Yao. Mostly it's isn't aiming towards Yao but towards your grudge against Yao supporters.
     
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    It looks like a w**** claims to be a virgin. :D :D :D
     
  6. DaRock1

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    I don't think we should force the ball to Yao like some other posters want.

    That being said. So, according to your brain, whoever thinks Yao should get the ball more must be a Yao fan and not a Rockets fan? Or is it your way to tell us that you are an idiot?
     
  7. leebigez

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    If you say so. I consider myself a fan of the team. I could care less who scored the most points, who got the most rebounds, who had the most assist. You never see me create threads about who should get the most shots or who should be the 1st,2nd, or 3rd options. This site isnt about that. its called Clutchfans for a reason. It was created in the 90's as a site for information about The Houston Rockets! Not Tracy rockets,yao rockets or rafer rockets. Its cool that this site has picked up some new fans after the drafting of yao. i'm sure this site has picked up new fans with getting scola, we have hayesfan and brooksball that probably like the 2 players they've derived their names from, but they dont talk about chuck hayes needing more time or brooks needing to shoot more. Their conversations are more geared toward the how the rockets can be better as a team.

    I've defended yao many times and i think he's a good solid player. Some of the supporters think he's a super star which i do not. I think you can win with yao Ming at center, but this team is as it should built around a core. yao is part of the core and i'm sorry that he's not the main piece. he's just a piece just like the others on the team. the winning percentage without him backs that up. So if you dont like what i say, thats your deal. i try to be as honest about the Rockets team as i can. if that means calling tracy out for going 2-12 like i did against SA, i'll do it. i've been a fan of this team for 28 yrs and I've seen a 2 time mvp get traded in his prime an the greatest houston sports figure finish his career in canada and through all of that, i still buy the league pas every year since birth and attend my share of home and away games. When this group is gone either through trade or retirement, old leebigez will still be here, Can you say the same?
     
  8. SevereCr1tic

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    No one questions that you had been a Rockets fan for a long time. But that doesn't mean you can't be biased (noted I don't want to use the word hypocrite again). I am not questioning your opinion about Yao beacuse most of them seem to be valid. I am questioning why you only pick on one specific player when the other star players on the team also have weaknesses and insufficiencies. I am also questioning why you have been calling out only the so-called Yao only fans when you have never said one word about the T-mac only fans. Are you going to tell me that you I apologize to have called you a hypocrite but what I have just said is the reason why I have called you that name.
     
  9. pmac

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    That's another thing that hasn't been discussed here.

    Everyone complains about Yao not getting the ball in good scoring positions. It is Yao's job to work himself into good scoring position. He doesn't always do that. Allowing shorter and smaller guys to push him out of the box is unacceptable. Alot of the time that he doesn't get fga is because he has not worked himself into good scoring position.
     
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    Bottom line, Yao should be taking 15 fga a game, minimum. The fact that he isn't is symptomatic of how badly the offense is misfiring as a whole.

    If the Rockets' offense starts clicking then Yao will be able to pass the ball back out, repost, and be assured of getting the ball back when he's gotten deeper position. As of right now the offense is still broken and everybody's numbers are down.
     
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    Yao eats too much greasy food.
     
  14. BrooksBall

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    At least he can create threads. ;)
     
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    "Dominance in the paints"? When was this? We have to accept the fact the Yao is not a physical post player like we all want him to be. He is a finesse player. Watch how much time he spends hand fighting for position in the paint when they are trying to get him the ball. That ends up waisting 5-10 secs off the shot clock. Teams can simply front Yao with a C or a physical PF and he has trouble getting position. Count how many moves he makes 'going towards the basket' during a game. Less than 5 i bet. I like Yao, i'm not bashing him, i'm just stating the obvious about his "domincance in the paints" hahaha
     
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    so mind to tell who is your "dominance center" in the league right now ? D.H ? maybe Shaq?
     
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    to be honest yao has never reached "dominance center" lvl. and he is going downhill now due to his age and race. D.H maybe is not the "dominance center" compared with those legends like hakeem, but he is the best center in the league at the moment no doubt. at least he is very efficient center in most of the games while yao is only good with right matchups. yao is one of the most overrated center. he is not even better than Arvydas Sabonis (NBA version:) or maybe Rik Smitz. so far he got ownd by kaman, camby, old shaq, Tyson Chandler, and even perkins this season. and the truth is if u court those elite PFs in such as TD, gasol, aldridge; u would find out that yao actually cant handle any of em. of course people could say yao ming was not 100% recovered. but who knows, i mean yao has never been tough from day one, why u guys expect him so much. Dont blame RA for yao's bad performance. if a player onlye can play good basketball with "the only coach", which means he is overrated for sure. mike james can score 20+, bonzi wells's shooting% used to be over 50, if u watch yao's game, i think no one would believe he is a 20/10 player. sometimes stats doesnt mean ****.
     
  19. superweapon-yao

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    Very well partly agree with you, i respect yao not just because of his skills also his personality.
    "If we just try to read-not to mention the right to respond to all the attacks, it is better to close the door to do other business. I make every effort to do a good job, and always will be things to finish. If the results prove that I was right then others will comment on how irrelevant; If the results prove that I am wrong. Even then spend 10 times the effort to run its own, also to no avail. " Time will show everything ...
    BTW i am glad to know your opinion about our super T-mac ;)
     
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    What the...?
     

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