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give yao the damn ball man

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by iku, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

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    yao never shot 56% under JVG bro. but yes, he wouldn't be shooting 45% like right now.

    adelman has to do a better job. he's letting tracy handle too much right now at his state, artest jacking up crazy shots for a guy who can't shoot, and yao not getting enough touches and looking lost.

    adelman needs to show us he's smarter than that. right now, he seems just as lost.
     
  2. durvasa

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    I said Yao isn't "great" at taking advantage of a smaller defender. That doesn't make it a bad option to go to him. It's just not as big an advantage for him as you may think.

    All I'm saying is that both are good options, and I can understand the thinking either way. You said it was a mistake for Tracy not to give Yao the ball in that situation. I don't think it's so clear-cut, and I can't give you a definitive answer as to which is the bigger advantage. As that play happened, I actually thought to myself "Yao is open against a smaller player ... but if Tracy takes the shot here we have a good chance of getting the offensive board and an easy put back." I can't complain with either choice.
     
  3. ibm

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    still, weak argument. this time i don't even know if you're serious.

    so, whatever you say sir.
     
  4. Shroopy2

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    I spoke more on the issue people saying that Yao needs to call for the ball. It was just one play, but he called for the ball. I dont think he was calling for it so he can pass it back out for a 24 footer at the end of the shot clock...Again I only started watching from that point and then saw Yao only had like 9 shots. It appeared there wasnt focus to work him in but I didnt see the big picture.

    I do agree the mismatch gives the option of shooting confidentally instead of passing. Its like a 3 on 1 break where a guy pulls up for a 3 pointer, there's a 75% chance they'll get the rebound back.

    But lets be real, what coach is gonna want you to shoot 10 times out of 10 when your All Star center is single covered by a guard? Can understand if its a Mutombo or Dorsey type center but Yao, while not Hall of Fame dominant, is a decent option to go through.

    Why not when a player is double teamed he shoots over both defenders, cuz he knows one of his unguarded teammates has a better chance of getting the offensive board? If I'ma coach talking to 2 players,

    - 1 tells me he had a 1 foot height advantage and didnt get the ball,
    - the other tells me he saw the matchup on him but shot it so big man can grab offensive boards,
    - Or says he pulled up for a 3 cuz he had 2 other teammates who could snare the rebound,
    - or shot over a double team cuz he saw the unguarded guy in position to grab a missed shot...

    Who's gonna look like they were position to score through the offense, and who's gonna look like Mike James?
     
  5. shakegod

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    Yeah,vs spurs,why Brooks dont pass the ball to Yao,he was not guarded,if Brooks passed,then Yao dunks,thus we possibly tied,we still have chance at overtime
     
  6. durvasa

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    I am serious. I think you overrate Yao's post up abilities on much smaller players. And I think you underrate his ability to cleanup misses on the offensive boards when he has a little guy switched onto him. I'm not pretending that's a strong argument; it's just a difference in opinion. I could be wrong.
     
  7. oldyellow

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    Exactly, RA instructed Yao to play "smartly": instead shooting right away after getting ball, but watching whether other teammates have better positions and passed to them. Yao mentioned in the begining of last season that he was very confused what to do each time. I recall one commendator mentioned that RA would destroy Yao because two seconds hesitation was enough to get doubled.
     
  8. oldyellow

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    because Brooks wants to be an all star!
     
  9. t_mac1

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    yao has the SAME problems he has when he entered the L. his skillset has improved dramatically that allows him to be the great player he is today. but the same problems are stopping him from ever being a HOF player.

    yao plays at his best when he doesn't think. for a guy like yao who analyzes the game a lot, his IQ of the game is very poor. adelman should just reduce yao's role offensively in terms of playmaking and other stuff and just tell him to SCORE SCORE SCORE
     
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    Everybody needs to chill. There's nothing wrong with our coach. Give this team till All Star Break to gel. We usually hit our stride around then every year.
     
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    thats why Nash can be the MVP
     
  12. Mr.Pink

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    Just don't give Yao the damn ball if we end up playing Utah in the playoffs.
     
  13. superweapon-yao

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    then give to who? Mr Pink in the picture?
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  14. Ikorose

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    Exactly, lets give Head the ball instead.
     
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    Yao needs to demand the ball. No need to care about who the hell are Tmac, Artest, and others. You need to be the leader and no need to be humble at crunch time. Be aggressive...
     
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    Look at the shooting percentage of our Big3 After 10 games, then tell me who should get the ball and shoot more?
    yao 48.1% T-Mac 38.7% Artest 32.9%
     
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    http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2008/11/ming-watch-part-1.html
     
  18. Spacemoth

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    If you've watched the game, you know that it's not Adelman's fault Yao is sucking. He seems to have lost his lower body strength; he cannot get position on the low block and has been catching the ball 12-18ft away from the basket which is simply unacceptable for a supposed low-post force. No matter how good you are, starting that far away from the basket is gonna lower your shooting percentage.

    That he is also a snail on that outlet pass also does not help. By the time our shooters catch his ball after he's been doubled, the other team has already had more than enough time to completely rotate. I can't remember one time where "making the extra pass" has worked this year, and it's almost exclusively Yao's fault. Those shots used to be our bread and butter in previous years.

    You can't blame any of this on Adelman's style forcing Yao to (God forbid!) think more. This is everything he used to do under JVG; he's just doing it worse (worst?) now.
     
  19. Mr.Pink

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    Can Yao dunk?
     
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    Hey Dwight Howard fans, what happened to Dwight Howard today? Does he have a new daddy now by the name of Emeka Okafor? Dwight Howard is 0-3, grabbed boards, and only scored 4 points before he fouled out! Emeka Okafor out-rebounded, out-scored, and out-played Dwight Howard!!!

    What you Dwight Howard bandwagoner fans have to say now?! I'm loving it!
     

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