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Ohhh Gerald!!!!!!

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Tom Bombadillo, Oct 18, 2008.

  1. DaDakota

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    I can't put my finger on it, but I think you are right.

    DD
     
  2. GermanRoxFan

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    yeah, how ignorant of me to point out that he has a very inconsistent jumper. dude, just look at his stats. he's averaging 41.6 % on his fgs (including all his dunks). he had one season at about 48 %, one season at about 42 % and one season at 34.4 %. his shot is as inconsistent as it can get. i'm not saying that he can't shoot. but to argue that his shot is very good and consistent, that is straight ignorant.

    and again, talking about his skill set (others have already pointed that out, but i'll repeat it.). he is an average rebounder at best. he's below average as a passer. his handles are weak (i don't care if they are as weak as luther's because it doesn't matter. fact is, his handles are - like all aspects of his game - average at best.). he doesn't know how to defend. he doesn't know how to be a good role player. he doesn't even care.

    there's much more than athleticism and size to a basketball player. basketball is a team sport. that's why gerald green is just not that great of a talent for the game of basketball. in fact, he's even less of a talent than luther head. luther also has a lot of holes in his game but at least he tries, is very coachable and knows how to be a role player.

    luther head can be a teams 9th or 10th man as role player (spot-up shooter). what role can gerald green fill out for a team? he can't be a spot-up shooter because his shot is inconsistent. he can't be a hustle player because that's not his nature. he can't be your lockdown defender because he doesn't know how to defend. he can't be your faciliator because that's not his game. he can't be your bench scorer because he's not very efficient (basically he just relies on his athleticism for a couple of highlight dunks and his inconsistent shot to get his points.). what else is there? well, he can be a team's participant in the slam dunk contest, i guess.

    but, come on people, get real. gerald green has no super star potential. and it's more than likely that he even won't develop his game to a point where he can be an effective role player. he'll be out of the league soon because youth is only an advantage for a player if he's still improving. gerald green hasn't improved at all since entering the league.
     
  3. sparky

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    To be honest, this highlight clip didn't show the most impressive part of Gerald's game. He kept attacking the defense, on 3 straight possessions. The first jumping over Mikki Moore, the next just driving into the lane and picking up fouls on Miller or Haus. Sac started to adjust and clog the middle a little more and then he started with his mid range and the outside game. Really an impressive individual performance.

    That being said, initially he played with pretty much the starting lineup minus either Terry or Howard. He had several bad passes to Dirk, I know at least 2 of them were turnovers, whether they were credited to him or Dirk, it was his bad pass that caused them. He did move very well without the ball especially when he started to draw defenders, as he got hot. He seemed aware of that, which indicates at least he has some bball IQ and some team play in him.

    The combination of him and Howard running down the floor is just scary. Both of those gazelles are freakishly athletic and I am sure they will take the Mavs "higher" than before (couldn't resist given their past).

    I think he is so young and has the talent to allow to develop. I think we should have kept him even if we sent him to the D-league. The one thing that he has that Wafer, Harris, Strawberry or maybe to certain extent Luther doesn't have is the ability to create his own shot at will. That is a very rare talent at the NBA level.
     
  4. dookiester

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    oh how foolish of me. i forgot that stats are everything. good thing we're giving up on aaron brooks after his awesome rookie season shooting 41% and 33% from 3. we all know aaron brooks is a good shooter and is a more than capable 3 pt shooter, even if his stats haven't borne that out yet. just like anyone who's seen gerald play can tell he's a good shooter and has plenty of tools. and inconsistency doesn't seem to prevent luther 'im on fire in the regular season but watch out for my blistering 7.1% postseason explosion!' head. luther head is the poster child for inconsistency. and for the record, i never said green was consistent. i said he had a great jumper, which he does. if green were consistent, he wouldn't have any trouble landing on a team.
     
  5. xiki

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    Or at least the talent to be a contributing rotation player. Think he'd be an AveryJohnsonMav? :D
     
  6. xiki

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    On a hopelessly bad team tanking for the Lotto he may have averaged 10ppg. Despite never being in the O's set places for him. And is missed D assignments gave up twice that perhaps?

    Maybe the switch will get turned on for him. Frankly, I don't care. Except v the Rox, of course.
     
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    Unfortunately, this is a telling trait of kids coming out of Gulf Shores Academy.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Fixed it for ya.

    ;)

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  9. pmac

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    The issue is not whether he's gonna be a star but whether he's gonna continue being an NBA player. If he can improve and gain any kind of consistency then the Rockets will look dumb for not giving him a chance this summer and preseason.

    I like Strawberry but i don't understand why everyone's gushing over Wafer when we could have had the same player in Green but with more athleticism, finishing ability, and height. It's just dumb.
     
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    Agreed, I would have liked to see him play with the Rockets a lot more, but Im not sure if he would fit in. The guy is pretty good and definitely has the athleticism, but the question is does he have the basketball IQ? He can be good for a couple of years, but he won't be a superstar. I think he is a good addition for a team like the GSwarriors or the sixers, if you catch my drift (Well dont know bout the sixers now since they have Elton Brand- change to post game).
    NEway, Gerald Green is a pretty good shooter at best, behind Tmac? No, Maybe behind Barry. I know he's from houston, but we have an abundance of solid players who play the fundamentals and I feel we are definitely taking a chance on Dorsey, but think about how big he would be if he just grabbed boards and got close range shots. All he has to do is work on his free throw shooting.

    Now back to the pre-season, keyword, "PRESEASON" everyones good preseason. Not to bag on wafer and strawberry, but chances are they aren't going to be averaging 15 points 5 boards 2 assists/ game... Not even Brooks, nevertheless coming off the bench it takes probably 2 minutes to get a rythm going and 1 minute to get a shot off... 2 minutes later he shoots and someone's back in the game to sub for him/them. Its very difficult to have someone like GG and take a risk when you have so many good players who will more than likely stick to the fundamentals ei. Carl Landry, Joey Dorsey, Chuck Hayes, Mike Harris.

    To Conclude my continouos talk about Geral Green in the preseason, He is a risk that we are not able to take on. Especially with the luxury tax. No Sir. By the way if you were to do so, who would you drop? Steve Francis? :eek:
     
  11. RiceDaddy7

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    So what? WE HAVE RON ARTEST.
     
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    he is really playing well in dallas.

    9.4 PPG on 54.1% shooting.

    and now he is in the starting lineup for the injured howard.

    can someone tell me why we kept Head or half of our pathetic roster over Green. :(
     
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    Because Gerald Green doesn't (nor will he ever) posses a basketball IQ
     
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    I know this sounds kind of sad, but would rather take someone's lack of IQ over another person's lack of production.

    Green is the type of player that can get things done, Head... not so much.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Green has BBall IQ, he just needed someone to have patience and teach him the game.

    And at half time, he already has more points than Tmac did against Kobe......


    DD
     
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    Are you awake yet? 17 and 6 tonight against the Lakers.

    I'm sure people are still gonna hate just like they hate everytime Rudy Gay puts up monster numbers and hits game winners, but don't deny that these guys aren't talented and could've helped the Rockets.
     
  17. AGBee

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    17 points on 15 shot attempts with 5 turnovers...let's give him a max deal next year! This guy is the next T-Mac.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    He can hit the 3 ball, but more importantly, when the defense closes out on him, he goes around them to the rack for a dunk, or a mid range pull up off the glass.

    The guy has amazing scoring ability, the Rockets blew it this year, but, hey, if he gets better in Dallas, maybe the Rockets sign him for the full MLE next year.

    Dallas won't be able to offer more.

    DD
     
  19. Kwame

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    I meant don't deny that these guys ARE talented...Sorry for the double post, but had to get to it before the grammar police did.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    10+ppg in 17mpg .50%FG.....35% 3pt percentage, 5 rpg....

    Yeah, our offense doesn't need someone like that?

    By the way, he scored 14 more points against the Lakers than Tmac did.

    Look, the guy can play, PERIOD...and the Rockets had him and could have had him on the cheap.

    He may not have developed here because of Tmac, Battier and Artest....but maybe he will come back next year as Tmac continues to break down.

    DD
     

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