Who is doing blue-collar work for the team right now?

Yao playing D? LMAO

 

Scola, Artest, Landry, and Hayes are all playing very hard. I'd call them the "blue-collar" guys. I can't fault their energy.

 

agree

 

we a bunch of caviar eating, champagne sipping, pretty boys from the looks of our recent games.
but hayes and artest are definitely the blue collar workers as of now. artest just makes some questionable decisions with the ball at times. but his positives outweigh his mistakes... so far.

 

Yao?? Umm apart from the Clippers game he has done nothing on the defensive end. Whats Yao's vertical jump? 10 inches?? Jeez...

 

10 inches? hahaha even my dog can jump over 10 inches.

 

Just cause he's in for ~40 minutes a game doesnt mean Yao's doing the blue collar work sadly.
Brooks kept on fighting in the Laker game, and Ron "everyday im hustlin" Artest is always a joy to watch pissing off kobe or whoever he's on.

 

Don't just look at stats to see "blue-collar" work. Blocks, steals don't mean **** if you can't keep your opponent in front of you. Battier used to do all the dirty work and none of the credit.

Right now, it's hard to say cause Artest is a great defender no doubt but he gambles alot (gets good steals) and sometimes lets his defender through. Pistons are a great example of how you don't average alot of steals/blocks and still have good team defense. It doesn't help Artest that Tmac can't play defense due to his injury.

Yao plays alot of wasted minutes in my opinion cause there's nobody else that size we can body up. We don't really have a choice because we have Hayes (6ft6") who can't make a layup and Scola (6ft9") who sucks at defense as our backup centers. This also may contribute to his fatigue and everyone knows when Yao's tired, he plays like a rookie.

I look forward to seeing Battier back on the court, not because of his defense, but because he spreads the floor better than Artest. Artest, Tmac, and Yao are all iso-players who can post up. This combination itself is a problem because Yao is known to be ineffective when it gets crowded in the paint. People used to complain about Battier's ineffectiveness in offense by just waiting in the corner for a 3. What people didn't realize is that Battier is a great 3 point shooter that keeps his defender on him and spreads for the floor for Yao, Scola, and Mac.

Of course, I still believe Artest will play the most minutes among the big 3. Shane will make Artest's life on the court a lot easier as well since he won't have to chase kobe around for 40-45 minutes. Artest will get to play with the first and second unit and we can finally take advantage of his versatility.

 

LOL!


plus, yao hasn't played great defense yet. in fact, he played poorly most of the time. he had a positive impact because of his presence alone, though. but still, i expect much more from yao. and í'm sure he's thinking the same way.

 

i would define blue collar work as boxing out and not letting Glen Davis get a rebound in front of you. And definetly not twice so it makes the NBA TV highlights.

So no i really don't think Yao has been doing any blue collar work. He should be averaging double digit rebounds. He did that without Mutombo last year, without Scola and with Hayes. Why can't he do it now. Same goes for Landry and Scola.

 

As if i care, have you seen the spurs championship seasons?? have you seen the lakers? or the celtics laast year??
Superstar have to set the example, if that causes their numbers back, so be it, if you look at all those teams youll see Kobe defending as if he was bowen, Ginobili running between screens to get to his man, Duncan getting out of the paint only to runb back and block as a help defender, Shaq being one on 2 and still getting the ball, and the 3 Celtics stars running all over the floor to press the other team offense.

So yes, let the role players execute on offense also, and let the superstars do some heavy work, if they can´t do that on consistent basis then trade them all, cause if they are paid superstar money is to play, not to play on offense or defense only.

Just review the past two champions, best SA defenders Bowen-Ginobili-Duncan-Parker, offensive load? Duncan-Ginobili-Parker. Best Celtics defenders, Garnett-Posey-Pierce-Allen, offensive load? Allen-Pierce-Garnett.
Miami? Wade did everything, Pistons? Their stars are the first at setting the example.

I think many here are too used to Lazy McGrady and "poor" Yao Ming who can´t do it all...
Your superstars are paid superstar money because they seem to be able to perform better no matter what, i´ve never seen Kobe, nor Duncan, nor Wallace, nor Wade complain about doing "blue colllar jobs" they just did it and they excelled on it as they did on the offensive end.

If your superstars can only do one thing or the other, then they are not good enough, they are overpaid role players, because that´s why "role" players are called "role players", because they are good doing only one or two things a game.

 

yao clogging up the lane and altering shots is about the only thing he is doing. otherwise, why is everyone running layupps around him anywhere near the basket.

if yao were doing the dirty work, he'd be coming up with 3 blocks a night consistently.

and if you doubt scolandry's hard work and hustle, then YOU SIR, have a problem.

your thread is transparent. you cannot lick Yao's jock any longer.


Yao Ming, in his 7th NBA season, has been EXPOSED

 

then what about getting rebounds?

landry and scola are both outrebounding yao per 48 minutes.

then what does? being 7'6" and a role model doesn't do it either.

passion? Yao's got none. confidence? gone with the two wide open dunks he has missed this season.

let's all hope so, because he sure is a disappointment so far this season.