ok i'm slow but i've noticed something here. last year there was significantly less steve haters than we currently have. why?, because we had a winning record and we almost snuck into the playoffs. the reason was because our lineup was fairly consistent, and steve and mobes played almost the entire year. this season we have the most lineup changes in the league because of a significant amount of injuries to key members of our team. not knowing who you're going to be playing with night in an night out does not lead to winning. i mean c'mon langhi has played more in about the last week alone than all of last season. our best player has missed about a quarter of our games and played approximately half of those with some sort of pain. i just find it very convinient that the steve hata's leave out how decimated he and our team have been this year. yet they still want to compare this year to last.
THANK YOU! Well said BigM, I'm behind you 100%. I think Stevie will show all u hatas next season that he's got the stuff lead this team to the playoffs for sure (barring too many injuries) and possibley be a very very serious competitor for the title in a couple of years. Go Rockets!
Well Steve isn't going to lead the Rockets to the playoffs by dribbling the ball of his foot. He sure likes to do that. As a matter of fact, I think he does that more than he dunks now. D.P.G. avg. = .94 D.O.F.P.G. avg. = 2.36
Maybe because Francis isn't playing as well as he did last year? I'm not saying it's a huge dropoff from last year, but his FG% this year is very Stackhouse-like. I hope it's just a result of his migraines. However, the biggest diff IMO from last year and this year, is that Steve isn't converting the layups like he did from last year. Moreover, his poor defense has been more exposed this year than last year. I will not consider Francis to be a top flight player until he improves his defense. He can put up all the gaudy overall numbers he wants, but if he's giving that much up to the opposing PG, it's all for naught. He is our best player, and as our best player, it's imperative for him to outplay the opposing PGs. More often than not, the opposing PGs are able to match the output of Francis. With star players, you should be able to assume that he will outplay his counterpart. Thus far, Francis has not done that this year.
STeve's #'s are fine, across the board. I think his migraines are hurting him, but maybe that's a cheap excuse on STeve's part. One thing I won't ignore is our record with him vs. our record without him. He is the team.
The teams FG% with him at the PG position is really crappy, that speaks volumes about how he is at running a team. Terrible. DaDakota
You gotta admit, this has been a pretty crazy season for Steve and the Rockets in general. First he missed a good month of games because of an injury. Then he sporadically missed a couple of games, never knowing when another migraine was going to attack. And then on top of that he even played a couple games while he had a migraine. Giving up on him after a ridiculous season like this is quite simply devoid of thought and unfair. If he was having the same season he had last year noone would be complaining, or calling for a lop-sided Andre Miller trade. If they were they would be idiots.
DCkid, I think that people around the league would not think the Miller for Francis trade lopsided at all. Who was picked to represent his country in the world games? Miller or Francis? I think the league sees Francis exactly as a lot of us do, a very talented individual player. And basketball is a team game. DaDakota
DaDa The committee choosing Miller had nothing to do with how they played--it came down to what they thought was a lack of character on Stevie's part--which certainly had something to do with Stu Jackson. I think it was just easier for them to get away with it because there wasn't too much of a drop-off with Miller.
Prem, I think the committee knows a little bit about basketball then, don't you? I am not doubting Steve as a talent, only as a person you can build a team around. He just does not have the brains to be that GO TO guy. At least I have not seen it, I would love to be wrong, but after 3 years of watching his turnover actually go up, I think we have another Marbury on our hands. DaDakota
Was that after last season that the Goodwill games were picked? If so, then that just proves the ridiculousness of that whole process. Comparing Steve to Miller after last season would've been a complete joke, this year not as much. But yes trading a healthy Steve like the one who played last season for Andre Miller this season would be a lop-sided trade. And had Steve been healthy all season I don't see any reason why he wouldn't have had the same year as last year.
DCKid, Miller was picked over Francis abuot 2 to 3 weeks ago, and George Karl said it was great to have the best young PG on board. DaDakota
At this point in his career he couldn't lead Kenyon Martin to a flagrant foul. I also think he pissed off a lot of people around the league turning down the Grizzlies. Just the way he pouted and all. It set a bad precedent.
The committee also selected Jason Terry and Mark Madsen. We know both of them are more deserving then Steve.
Yeah terry should never have been on that team but Madsen, I will fight you to the death over him, the best up and comming PF in the NBA
jason terry is equal or close to steve? that has to be a joke. that just shows how much you dislike steve, no matter what he does or what anybody says. now if you want to tell me andre miller or baron davis are equal to steve, fine, i agree. but a 6'1" 2-guard who doesn't even score as well, much less rebound or pass as much, is not equal to francis. that's hater talk, not criticism. steve's numbers are up this year but i concur with anyone that he's not playing as well, particularly fg%, but i think that it's 100% due to injuries. i have no reason to trade someone with his ability simply based on a season that's gone wrong in just about every possible way for him and the team.
Maybe close, but I think he'll even tell you that Steve has been better the last 3 years. Steve's #'s are hard to match. Terry, Shareef, Dermarr....I wonder why they don't win more. Seriously.
