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[Fox Sports] Should Artest be Rockets' main man?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jsmee2000, Oct 31, 2008.

  1. BackNthDay

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    Yao is the first option until teams learn to front Yao, which effectively limits his scoring. That is when we will need Ron Ron at PF and Batman at SF.
     
  2. Ready

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    this guy wrote well and analyzed the rockets with great efficiency.

    i liked the article.
     
  3. plutoblue11

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    I agree...the same thing for Diop, both are very good post defenders, possibly top 10 - 12. I think both do a good job with keeping teams out of the paint, at times.
     
  4. LabMouse

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    Yes, 100% right, you can not have a team without the first option, then Rafer and Luther could say they are hot, should be the first option.

     
  5. GRENDEL

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    Exactly, there is no real need to establish a pecking order. Yao will always be the first option to start the game but as it nears winning time, it a matter of going with whoevers on that nite.

    That's the main advantage that a big 3 offers, your not just relying on 1 guy to come through every nite.
     
  6. durvasa

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    I wasn't considering the salary. :D

    Yeah, I'd skip that.
     
  7. tinman

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    the engine has been breaking down every year

    it appears that tracy runs out of gas too

    I'll take the guy with the shotgun, cause the man with the gun always wins
     
  8. Dave_78

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    This is the only logical response to the question of who is top dog.
     
  9. abrocketsfan

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    I like the thought of Tracy being Tracy but for like 10 fewer possessions ... and Yao getting 15-20 touches. I like how one can always have an off-night or play limited minutes.

    Battier should bring more stability to the lineup.

    Hopefully Tracy's knee recovers to 100%, at this stage in his career that's not always a guarantee....
     
  10. MD_in_Training

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    Until he shoots himself in the face.
     
  11. pmac

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    Actually it was pretty clear for their team. Paul Pierce was the man on offense because he could take advantage of the single coverage and get to the rack. In crunch time situations, you want the ball in the best perimeter players hands and you can go from there. Ray Allen has always been a player that could make shots but wasn't ever as fierce as Paul. KG has always been versatile but never the traditional back to the basket big that you build an offense around. I think they were a perfect fit.

    Our team is different. I think you want to go inside out starting with Yao but then Artest is great at getting to the rim and finishing but then Tracy is the best at creating shots for people. Until Mcgrady really comes back from his injuries its really doesn't matter because Ron is the man on the perimeter and Yao is the man inside.
     
  12. 2rings

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    well, as usual, charley is showing why he is writing books and not coaching, because he's a dumb@ss. blalnce is key for this team. also, yao has to be the central point of the offense because he is the most efficient scorer, demands more double teams (creating other options for his team mates), draws the defense inside, and is the best foul shooter. thanks for playing again charley, but no prize for you.
     
  13. koopa

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    there shouldn't be a main man..they should all contribute equally so it keeps defenses guessing just like how the good teams operate. and rockets have the capability to do that this time..who is the better team player i think it's artest..because he is a better defender and scorer out of the everyone
     
  14. ParaSolid

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    I'm going to reserve judgment until Tracy comes all the way back. I would have no problem at all with Artest being the 2nd leading scorer, because that would free up McGrady to drive and dish, or hit cutters with his accurate passing. But again, when it comes to the clutch, feed the hot hand. Usually it's really tough to get it to Yao, but you either get a foul, a bucket, or both. Not really a hard decision. If not, we still have two beasts out on the perimeter and a speedy pg (not Alston) who'll break you down if you pay too much attention to the unfairly nasty big 3.
     
  15. saleem

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    The main man has to be Yao Ming. But when he is struggling Ron should become the main option for now. McGrady is injured and doesn't play tough most of the time,although I do appreciate his effort against the Jazz last season.
     
  16. FFz

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    Rozen is trying to start some ****. He listened to Reggie about Artest and Oneal and decided wow lets start this **** in Houston. We don't need that here! MESS OFF ROZEN! Go service phil jackson some more plz/
     
  17. Hayesfan

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    You know what I found most interesting about last night's commentary. Was the talk about O'Neal and Ron's "Who's team is it" rivalry.

    Reggie was talking about it pretty candidly and how Ron now realizes how silly it is.

    You want to know who starts crap like that. The media.

    The media says "This is Tmac's team" or "This is Yao's team" and suddenly the perception is that, if the team wins or loses it's that persons fault.

    Bull. This is a team sport. If one person could win the game every time out Jordan Kobe and LeBron would never lose.

    If you want to be perfectly honest if the media, ie Rosen, didn't try to make it such a "I'm the big dog" sport there would probably be a lot more teams out there with improved chemistry.

    When a person is told the same thing over and over and over again from the media, and they pay attention, even if they say it doesn't matter, then its more likely that those things will start to affect who they are and how they play.

    You can talk about a team and how one player steps up more often, but what good does it do to pigeon hole the players in one role? None other than to attempt to create issues so you can get better ratings when you write about the blow-up caused by the articles you write.

    There should be no "main man" on this team. Cavs, yes. Lakers, yes. Boston, no. Rockets, no.

    But that's just my opinion.

    edit: man I took so long to finish this, you ^^ mentioned it before I did. Only you said it much more succinctly.
     
  18. johnstarks

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    I really like how Yao has mastered 1) the spin away from the double-team baseline hook shot (in which he used to react to slow to double-teams before), 2) the turn around jumpshot (which he used to fade too much), and 3) the under-the-basket rough and tumble plays that Vlade used to make (which look ugly, but are really effective)

    He needs to be the #1 option for the simple reason that he draws double-teams every single time he touches the ball. That contorts the defense and sets up everyone else include artest and t-mac, not to mention AB, CL, LS, and BB.
     
  19. mlwoo

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    Love it. New sig time.
     
  20. seaweed

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    Does anyone else here also thinks Ron looks (and actually feels) just like the cartoon figure 'Shan Yu' in Disney's movie 'Mulan'?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMIs9t09HdY

    I kind of like that evil leadership in Shanyu a little.
     

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