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[Controversial] I feel McGrady should be our 3rd Option

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by emjohn, Oct 28, 2008.

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Who should be our 1-2-3 scoring options (ranked)?

  1. Yao-McGrady-Artest

    355 vote(s)
    44.8%
  2. McGrady-Yao-Artest

    102 vote(s)
    12.9%
  3. Yao-Artest-McGrady

    286 vote(s)
    36.1%
  4. McGrady-Artest-Yao

    22 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. Artest-McGrady-Yao

    1 vote(s)
    0.1%
  6. Artest-Yao-McGrady

    17 vote(s)
    2.1%
  7. Other

    9 vote(s)
    1.1%
  1. superx

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    Yeah,McGrady has many problems,but our other two stars also have their own problems,so i suggest keep the existing system,that is:Yao-McGrady-Artest
     
  2. rockmanslim

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    I agree with this. No matter what we as fans feel the pecking order should be, here's my guess on how it will actually turn out:

    For regular season games with no historical significance:
    - Yao-Artest-McGrady

    For historical regular season games (i.e. 20th, 21st, etc straight win) and playoff games:
    - McGrady-Yao-Artest


    For run-of-the-mill regular season games, T-Mac gets bored. We've all seen it. He tends to play passively and disinterested. Thus we will see him relegate himself to be the third option. I'm okay with that as long as we're winning. I think we've got enough firepower to do so, plus it should keep him fresher and healthier for the playoffs.

    For big games, including playoff games, T-Mac lays it all on the line. This is when we'll see the Big Three in full flight.
     
  3. Easy

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    What do you mean by "3rd option"? If you mean he should take the 3rd most shots. Then maybe that's something to think about, although I am still not sure if Artest is better than him. (Yao definitely should take the most shots.)

    But if you mean he should be the 3rd guy to be considered in the offense, then the answer is "hell no!" He is the best playmaker on the team by far. Why would anyone want him to be the third guy?

    Amare is the 1st option in the sense that he take the most shots. But Nash has got to be the 1st option in the second sense. Nash decides who gets to shoot and when. T-Mac's role is more like Nash than Amare.
     
  4. tinywang

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    tonights game against the mavs pretty much just validated this thread.
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    Again, this theory proved well today..............
    Ron Artest is our most consistent and efficient perimeter option.
    At the same time Tracy's passing ability is a great otion to have........
     
  6. 1onewonjuan

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    pple dont understand that tmac is always hurt so he could never be a reliable scorer. if he can stay healthy he can be a very good option. id say for now since tmacs hurt he sould be the 3rd option but when he gets in shape he should switch to 2nd cuz he is a better offensive player and overall player than ron is.

    hes still a superstar w/ his banged up body which is hard to do since most superstars are more healthy than hes ever been in houston...
     
  7. T.Mcgrady

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    Yep - 1 game definitely validated this thread.
     
  8. durvasa

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    T-Mac was fine as an offensive option this game. He got going there in the 3rd, and he led the team in assists. Defensively, he was laboring.

    One game doesn't prove anything. Sometimes T-Mac goes off, and sometimes it will be Artest. That's the beauty of having a Big Three.
     
  9. jasonemilio

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    QFT.

    Although until Tmac gets to atleast 90% health (according to his standards), I think that it would be more beneficial to us if he plays as 3rd option in terms of taking most of the shots.

    Tmac is finally starting to get that if you have a bad night, you need to force the issue sometimes and try to get to the line, which is exactly what he did tonight, and only missed one out of 11.
     
  10. kaydawkuh

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    exactly, thats the luxury Boston had last year, and the nightmare opponents had to deal with. One night KG will dominate with 30 points 20 reb while Ray Allen struggles with 9 points and Pierce brings it with 25. And maybe the next day Ray will get back on track with a 30 point outburst, KG is still there, but Pierce drops off with only 14 points. Both result in victories.
    That is what we have now, Yao had a solid game with 30, Ron had 29 important points and tmac shot poorly from the field.

    We still won convincingly against a playoff team in the Mavs although they arent top tier anymore.

    Also, I LOVE Tmacs 10/11 ft line more than anything.
     
  11. GATER

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    Defining "1st...2nd...or 3rd options" is fan foolishness. The NBA game is and has always been about creating and/or responding to mismatches. You get them in transition...you get them in ball movement...you get them in having multi-dimensional players.

    When Battier and Brooks both become 100% healthy, the Rockets have a solid 10 deep rotation where the oncourt lineup is capable of overmatching their opponents in nearly all matchups.

    Who gets the shots is a fundamental of what the opponent gives you and what they are trying to take away. If you have the versatility...you exploit the former.

    In the most simplistic terms...you find who is hot and milk it until the opponent adjusts. Then you move to the next option.
     
  12. t_mac1

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    tmac got to the line 11 times. and he's still playing injured. got 7 dimes. 16 pts on 10 shots is pretty decent.

    obviously artest and yao played superb tonight. we go to whoever is hot and has the mismatches. they were not doubling yao at all for whatever reason and he did his thing (pound the ball if he's single covered).

    artest got going.

    tmac is the guy that has to pick and choose his spots b/c he's the only guy who can do that. if the other 2 gets hot, it's his job to be the distributor b/c he's our best playmaker. unless they need him, tmac should really facilitate until the 4th.
     
  13. seb_town

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    100% agreed
     
  14. DaronMalakian

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    People forget easily playoffs. Every year.
     
  15. MLittle577

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    I agree with the OP, that is until T-Mac is 100%. Once he's back, they can take turn being the #1 option (its a long season), with the overall order still being Yao, TMac (once healthy), and Artest.
     
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    wow dude best post in this thread

    people forget how good tmac was in the playoffs!
     
  17. pmac

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    I'd like to see what Tracy does when he's "healthy" but come on.

    Dude was terrible out terrible out there.

    Its not about what he actually did because anybody can be cold but its about what he's capable of doing.
     
  18. bratna8

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    This is my first post on this thread...but I have to strongly agree with the OP. I love TMac....but most of the time he makes it very easy for the defender to guard by settling for jumpshots.

    Artest on the other just punishes the D and constantly attacks the basket which puts a lot of pressure on the defense and it also gives our bigs better opportunity to crash the boards.
     
  19. t_mac1

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    in 29 mins, he got 16 pts, 7 dimes, and 11 free throws. and it's obvious he's still not even close if you saw his lateral movement in the first quarter on defense.

    i agree, right now, he should be 3rd, or even 4th option considering he's not ready to handle the load.

    but you'd be foolish if you don't think adelman still regards tmac highly. at the end of the memphis game, we went to tmac exclusively down the stretch.

    right now he's just not ready. and don't force him. let him play his way through.

    yao and artest have it going right now. scola, brooks, and others too. tmac should just facilitate.
     
  20. Skanookie

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    Mcgrady is a very good player, somewhat rusti, but you'll see what t-mac is about. Artest is badazz tonight but dont hold mac down. Cause there will be games when mac is the man. Yao might be the man. Peja said he loves the rockets lol. Sike....
     

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