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Let's Trade Out of the Draft

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Aruba77, Mar 27, 2002.

  1. NJRocket

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    Thank God you dont work in the Rockets front office
     
  2. CriscoKidd

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    I ask one question ... how do you know teams did not court him ... and it weakens my argument? Puh-leese.

    Mo didn't want to leave the Rocks, bottom line. I doubt he seriously entertained any offers from other teams(which is what counts, not wooing), if they were made.
     
  3. CriscoKidd

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    I was thinking the same about you.
     
  4. NJRocket

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    Because he didn't visit any other teams and they didn't visit him.

    Between the BBS and local sports periodicals/media you can find out when the last time Rudy wiped his a$$...you don't think that perhaps there would have been some sort of microscopic blurb about Mo T drawing interest from other teams whiel the Rockets wait to see what happens with Dream??? I tend to think there woud have been something
     
  5. NJRocket

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    then you should have said it first:D

    but if i DID work there...you can rest assured that the only thing Mo T would have been doing in Houston would have been working the deep-fryer at Drexler's BBQ
     
  6. DearRock

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    NJ Rocket, I am sorry, MoT has never shot 50+%. However he did shoot 49% last year and is averaging 47% for his career.

    If that is the case, then my arguement stands that we need that % to improve ours. To make a move to get someone who can do the same would be a waste. More than likely his shots would come from both increased number of possessions, with fast breaks, and a reduction in the number of outside shots that we take which is partly responsible for our poor shooting percentage.

    There are ten PF's in the league that I would consider better than MoT and most of them are either not available or do not particularly excite me. And for those who are available it is just not worth it to go after them if you already have MoT.
     
  7. NJRocket

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    At least.....there are 6 better PF's in our DIVISION!!! (7 if you include Kenny)

    Dearrock...my point isnt that we should trade him for another slob, my point is that with his ability (or lack thereof) and his contract, we simply are stuck with him and he will never make us a better team.
     
  8. DearRock

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    NJ, that is where I do not agree. With is shooting percentage alone, it is logical to conclude that he will make us better. He has good hands, he has size, he has bulk, why wouldn't he make us better. Mind you I am not saying that he is going to bring this to the table and we will have to give up on KT or anybody else. I am expecting him to bring that with very little attached negative effects.
     
  9. NJRocket

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    We are currently getting 14+ppg, 7 + rpg and shooting 48% from the starting PF position (kenny's stats)...Mo T has been a career 14-15 ppg , 5 rpg and 48% from the field. Now, he is coming off perhaps the worst injury a basketball player can suffer and you are expecting him to increase his #'s to the point where he makes a difference in whether or not we make the playoffs??? Sorry, I didn't think he could/would make a difference before the injury and now Im fairly certain he won't. Even if he improves to the point where he gets , dare i say, Kenny Thomas-like #'s, we still are not going anywhere fast
     
  10. CriscoKidd

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    Your right on that. Their wasn't any massively publicized wooing going on. But I wouldn't be surprised if there were teams making offers and trying to get in contact with him to woo him.

    I was looking to say it first, I just forgot about it you b*stard. And I missed out on the opportunity to be totally cliche and start out with: Funny, ... :D

    so a double whammy on me.
     
  11. DearRock

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    I think you are limiting your discussion to try and make a point. I would say that we keep KT number and bring in MoT numbers from last year. I do not see why we cannot in 48mins at the PF spot we cannot get 25 pts with both KT spending some time also at SF and MoT spending sometime at C. If you are aware of something that would prevent that please let me know. If this team get that from those two guy, it would be better team.
     
  12. NJRocket

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    Well, right now we get 23.5 ppg from Eg and KT...so if you think an extra 1 1/2 points per game are going to mean that much, then I dont know what to tell you.

    Right now, we are getting pretty much the max (whether it be KT or Mo T) production out of our PF position that we can get given what we have to work with. Add it up anyway you want but it doesn't make a difference.


    Also, did you say Mo T spending some time at C ? I thought so...do you know what is the only thing worse than having a PF who cant rebound or play defense?....its having a center that cant rebound or play defense...or maybe getting your tongue stuck to a frozen pole
     
  13. DCkid

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    actually, not exactly true. centers suck on offense, power forwards don't. These days it helps a lot more to have a good defending power forward.
     
  14. NJRocket

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    you lost me at the comma after "actually":confused:
     
  15. drc3906

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    OK, this is my 1st time to post. However, I read yalls post all the time (for years actually). I want to make a comment. There are some people on this board who need a good butt kicking. NJ Rocket, you are just plain rude. You need to understand that everybody has their own opinion of a player. I personally believe MoT is a good scoring 4 who needs to work on some areas. You believe different and that's ok. You don't have to get so rude and pissy to those who don't think along your line. Take your medication man. Your going to have a heart attack. Boy, you got me so annoyed that you forced me to type for the first time on this board! Bottom line: respect peoples opinions and don't get so pissed off and rude. I mean, just because they believe different from you isn't the end of the world. You have a happy Easter, OK man. And I'm sorry about that kickin your butt thing. I probably shouldn't of said that.
     
  16. DCkid

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    1.) Centers typically guard centers.
    2.) Power forwards typically guard power forwards.
    3.) Centers in the NBA currently suck. You can probably count the number of good offensive centers in the league on one hand.
    4.) Just about every power forward in the league is a skilled offensive player.
    5.) Thus, its a lot more important to have a good defending power forward. Which is why I think the following assessment you made is backwards: <i>do you know what is the only thing worse than having a PF who cant rebound or play defense?....its having a center that cant rebound or play defense </i>
     
  17. NJRocket

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    3 words...

    Weak Side Help
     
  18. NJRocket

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    As far as your assessment of PF's guarding PF's and C's on C's...I think you see a lot more of the opposite. I think the weaker centers in the NBA typically guard the opposing PF so that the PF doesn't risk getting into foul trouble (being that nowadays PF's are, with few exceptions, offensively dominant in comparison to C's)
     
  19. DCkid

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    Okay, while you're putting your best defensive player to guard Divac, Olowakandi, Robinson, I'll be putting mine on Webber, Brand, Duncan. Who do you think would fair better?
     
  20. DearRock

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    Remember I am not asking the team to go and get MoT. He is already on the team. I do not think you should have brought in EG as some say he is playing SF. Anyway, clear the board and let me start over.

    C Cato 24mins/MoT 12mins/EG 12 mins =48

    PF MoT 24mins/EG 18mins./KT 6mins =48

    SF KT 24mins/Rice 24mins =48


    MoT = 36 = 15pts
    EG = 30 = 12pts
    KT =30 = 15pts

    Are you saying that this cannot be done?
     

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