I have not seen ONE video from an Obama rally where they are spewing this hatred, nor have I seen Obama supporters shouting at McCain voters. I have seen Obama people recording the blatent racist tones of some of the McCain supporters. Not all, it would not be fair to lump them all in.....but you just don't see that at the Obama rallys..... McCain is pandering to the lowest form of campaigning and it is divisive, and harmful to this country that he gives lip service to wanting to protect. It is destroying it instead....very harmful.....I want to know why they let it go on? Why not speak out against it...take a stand......America is watching....and the vast majority of it finds this reprehensible. DD
I do, I was in the Sigma Chi fraternity that was the SWT baseline bums...... It is a very small world. I used to hoop it up above that swimming pool in the old gym across from the tennis courts....there was better ball there. DD
Dang it... listen to me once and for all... ALL racism is WRONG! STINKIN' PAY ATTENTION. What does it profit us to stir the pot? Honestly, I didn't watch the video because I'm tired of hearing the bigoted hatred... and further tired of hearing it stirred up in here! It doesn't help to give these people the attention! When will we learn that?
I'm sure all of you guys were equally offended and concerned over the words that have been thrown at Bush the last eight years, and the blatantly racist (he is a primate, after all) website bushorchimp.com.
What do you think about your party stirring the pot on this though? Why won't McCain come out like you just did and put a stop to it? His ratings would go up immensly....he is letting racism define his campaign and he is getting steam rolled. DD
For the record I never once made a Bush Chimp comparison, though such a comparison isn't racist in the case of Bush. If people said offensive things about Bush, then I was definitely outraged. I'm not calling you a racist, but just puzzled why such abhorrent behavior isn't universally condemned. It's why started the embarrassed thread. I would be embarrassed to be on the same side of the election as these people. But it's hard to get any kind condemnation of them from McCain supporters here.
Not relevent to this topic. What do you think Anti about that video? And others like it? I was in the Young Republicans in college and have predominantly voted republican my whole life....and I will again once the party gets back on course...and away from it's shift too far right. But this is hurting the GOP...it is flat out divisive at a time when we need a leader to stand up and say...ENOUGH...... I don't understand why McCain has not done that.....he has had ample opportunity... DD
All I'm saying is Obama is far from the first guy to have angry and ignorant detractors. I've seen much worse stuff written about Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Carter, heck even Truman.
Really? I've seen some stuff about Nixon that was threatening. But I haven't seen this much stuff about any of the other Presidents you mentioned.
Dude... my responses initially in this thread were to post #3, and your follow up request in post #17. Stop it. You know I DO NOT CONDONE RACISM, nor do I think the sign stealing or bashing/slashing is the same. I commented on a side discussion... it happens in here all the time... I'm not the only one guilty of accidentally derailing a thread. I explained why I did not watch the trash in the video already. I am not racist. If people read that into my posts, they've simply never read much of my posts on the topic... I am being lumped into a group simply because I vote conservative and not Dem. Horrible side effect of idiots that claim the GOP... but unfair. I ain't the one.
Another point...I am certainly no fan of the Islamic faith, as people on the D&D are aware, but who cares if the candidate is Muslim....why should that matter? I am baffled by McCain using hatred to fuel his campaign......baffled and saddened. DD
It is. I heard a commentator talking about Mondale's campaign the other day. Towards the end when it was clear that Mondale was going to lose, they told him that for the rest of the campaign he should go out there and campaign they way he would want his grandchildren to remember him. That's what Mondale did. I wish somebody would give McCain the same advice.
It's also possible that people will be disgusted by the fringe groups. It's going to be an interesting time and perhaps America needs to face it's warts squarely in the mirror instead of living in denial. IROC it, you stir a lot of negative pots around here. Why you try so hard to avoid this one completely escapes me. DD, it isn't baffling any more. It's very simple: McCain wasn't the honorable man we thought he was.
DaDakota, you miss the point again... if McCain gave them the spotlight by bringing it even more to the surface, it only emboldens hatred to speak louder. And dude... he DID silence it when he snatched the mic out of that ladies hand. He has openly condemned the ignorance and hatred. Why give them more pub? Remember, on the flip, and to be fair, Obama started the dialogue with his "I don't look like the presidents on the money" and "Did I mention he's black" comments. That didn't help anything... it sowed the seeds in people's minds that ANY comment about him was some how "code." Some of the racial fueling of the fire - YOU HAVE TO ADMIT - has been two ways. Don't be blind to that FACT that stirring it here doesn't help, it just gives a platform to these morons. Why did Barack have to mention taxing "whites" in 1995? He didn't. It's been both ways. Don't be naive. It DOES not make ANY of it right... on EITHER side. Again - When will we learn? The sooner we give no attention to the negative crowd, the sooner they fade into obscurity. Insecure people want the attention. Quit giving it to them.
It's part of his 'online antagonist shtick', or so he claims (especially when it's convenient). I agree Obama's election will bring more undercurrents of ignorance to the surface.
Iroc It, The difference is in how it is mentioned, I think it is not the same as you say. Barrack has faced racism, it is part of what made him the man he is today, and it is relevant for him to discuss it. He doesn't look like the Presidents on the bills, that isn't racist, it is uplifting, telling people look how far America has come that a black man is running for the highest office in the land as one of two major candidates. That is not racist, it is the truth. But more importantly it is NOT divisive.....now...contrast that with... What is happening in the McCain campaign though is that they are fostering hatred, that is all they have.....McCain could have come out against it, and moved into the issues with a clear plan, but like his entire life, he reacted quickly and without thinking...on all of the issues and crisises that he has faced. His VP selection - looked good at first...but not properly vetted and is now an anchor. Suspending his campaign to go back and do WHAT, exactly - backfired Claiming he was not going to do the debate...then did..... On and on and on.....it has been the worst run campaign I have ever seen and I have been voting since Ronald Reagan's 2nd term.....(which I voted for him in.. ) McCain has fostered this issue, let it boil just below the surface and it is backfiring on him big time. The internet points this stuff out now better than ever.....THANK GOD for that. DD
