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Obama Will Rob Us of the American Dream

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    Like many have said, plenty of Democratic Presidential candidate have been given the "socialist" tag by the paranoid right. I certainly remember Limbaugh tagging Clinton as a socialist back in the 90s. All while plenty of businesses got rich and the anti-free-trade crowd not exactly loving the administration.

    The truth is, unless Obama doesn't want to get elected again, and wants to drag all the House Democrats with him in 2010, he won't go anywhere near socialism.

    In any case, after not seeing actual socialism practiced by Democratic Presidents, the "socialism" story isn't quite that scary any more-- except to those in the Republican "base."

    Firing up the base is all that this story is good for.
     
  2. BetterThanEver

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    It won't cost as much as the spendaholic Bush policies, of cutting taxes on the rich, and increased defense spending.

    He can save hundreds of billions of dollars by discontinuing the war in Iraq. The estimated cost of the war so far is over $ 700 billion.

    The tax cuts towards the middle class will make up for the increased tax rate(payroll+income) that the middle class pay over the upper class. It would be a continual economic stimulus package throughout his term instead of the one time $600 shot.
     
  3. TheFreak

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    Lord, you could say the exact same thing about so many of the things McCain supposedly wants to do if elected, in the eyes of the "paranoid left".
     
  4. adoo

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    McCain supported the BIGGEST socialist policy ever, $700B worth. So did GWB, aren't they socialists as well ?
     
  5. BasuraBlanca

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    As well as Un-Patriotic and Un-American.

    He doesn't know anything about strong Patriotic beliefs. He should have had his azz serving in the military. No one should be allowed to serve as the President if they didn't serve in the military in my opinion.

    Does it seem right that you can lead the armed forces, but have never served it in? Just like high school principals used to be teachers, and all police chiefs used to be street cops.....

    But don't worry, Obama is here to rescue us. :rolleyes: He'll make it all better.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    What concerns me greatly is how Obama plans to steal the American Dream of Latinos.

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    Otra vez -- Obama habla bastante, no dice nada, y hace menos.
     
  7. BlastOff

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    ^WAAAAAAAAAAAH. Get over it already.
     
  8. surrender

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    hahahahahahahahahahaha
     
  9. BasuraBlanca

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    You think he's proud to be American?
     
  10. conquistador#11

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    Excluding latinos from florida(also home to corrupt salvadoran politicians), colombia, and venezuelan elitist now making their home here, who is with mccain? I know that in our catholic church, st. theresa, we're pro obama. Latinos, from latin america, we know better than to trust a right winger. They're the reason why we were refugees in the first place. Looking back, I'm glad our family chose the U.S instead of Australia for political asylum. It would have really sucked to have been a fan of rugby and not the NFL. =(

    Is trader Jorger really daddy yankee? If so, I hate your music, but love your videos. They're hot.


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  11. surrender

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    No, he's a manchurian candidate. Thank you for showing me the light

    My family is Venezuelan and vehemently anti-Chavez, but they're also vehemently against the previous presidents who swindled the country out of millions (who all live in West Palm Beach, as it happens!). We're voting for Obama :eek:
     
  12. dandorotik

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    MYTH: All coaches should be former players, like Chuck Daly who led the Detroit Pistons to 2 NBA titles.
    FACT: Daly never played basketball at any level in his life.

    MYTH: All health care administrators should be former surgeons or nurses.
    FACT: Most health care administrators (these are the people that run the hospital operations, sort of like how the Commander in Chief runs the military) never performed 1 medical procedure in their life.

    MYTH: All C-level executives and senior management members should be former employees who worked their way up through the system.
    FACT: WalMart. Nuff said.

    While it can certainly be a benefit in some instances to have worked in a functional area of an industry prior to the transition to a management and/or executive position, it is NOT a requirement nor a precursor to success. One needs to have the ability to think strategically, to balance a big-picture perspective with small-detail and mid-detail initiatives, to supervise and motivate team members, to pinpoint and resolve problems in early stages (or react swiftly and decisively to fix existing problems), to handle large areas of responsibility, and to provide the creative vision that is the cornerstone for a successful corporation, faith-based organization, privately-held small/mid-size/large business, non-profit organization, or other operational entity.

    In other words, all your theories are belong to us.
     
  13. mc mark

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    Oh boy! A live one!
     
  14. leebigez

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    Why wouldn't he be? A white mother and african father he never knew raised by white grandparents. Graduates from college , gets married,have kids,wins a senate seat and is running for president. Why wouldn't he be. Now as a black man in america, you know there are obstacles that no other minority has been through in this country and is still viewed as a threat. U can't use that as a excuse for not succeeding,but u know its there. Being american is great, but that doesn't mean our country doesn't have scars,wounds and faults that they still wnt acknowledge. People always talk about the what happen to jewish people during ww2, but how may pages are in the history books about the millions of slaves that died en route to america? Its so twisted that we have black history month. The history of america can't be written without african americans . So it shouldn't even be just a separate month, it should just be part of history.

    I actually think its kinda sad that it has taken this long for america to accept the idea of a person of color becoming president. This race wouldn't even be close if barack wasn't black.
     
  15. mc mark

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    TJ disagrees

    He says the only reason Barack is the nominee is because he's black. He says if Barack was white, he'd be a nobody.

    right Jorge?
     
  16. leebigez

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    I mean if there was a democratic nominee like obama that wasn't black, this would be a blowout in every sense of the word. I mean, there isn't a person on this earth that can say mccain is even smarter than obama. TJ can talk or say what he wants, that's his opinion, but everyone know its always a glass ceiling of expectations when you're black. My pops was born in 1935 in jasper,tx. Served in korea and has a balance that should be tilted towards anger. He talks of stories in the military and just growing up in the south and I'm amazed he isn't that angry black man. He talks of being caution when talking about the race being over because he's seen a lot of banana in the tail pipe moves by "the man." Now, I can't walk in his shoes, but to think everything is even in this country across the races is naive'.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Please tell me one unpatriotic or un-American thing Obama is done.

    As for patriotic things he's done I can list plenty. He turned down high paying jobs with investment banks to improve our nation by working in poverty stricken inner city Chicago. He helped with promoting education, reforming education, improving some of the poorest communities in our fine nation.

    He served the nation as Senator and worked on several bills which helped to keep weapons from terrorists, improve border security, make funding of campaigns transparent, support a greater GI bill, etc. He's met with our men and women fighting in the field, visited wounded troops in hospitals, and plans to provide them with far better leadership than they've had the past 8 years.

    So please tell me what unpatriotic things has Obama done? Name one thing he's done which makes you believe he doesn't love our nation.

    It's hard to make that claim when he's sacrificed so much to serve it.
     
  18. rhadamanthus

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    STFU

    :rolleyes:
     
  19. Nice Rollin

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    you're the problem with America. You think our country can't better itself? You think we're perfect? So you're not proud to be an American if you think you can do better? We're the greatest country in the world, but we havent acted like it. That doesnt make me Un-American cuz i say that. That actually makes me more American than you, because I want to be better...
     
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  20. thadeus

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    I agree. Also, no one should be allowed to serve as president if they haven't served in the military and no one should be able to serve in the military if they haven't served in church and also been the quarterback on the high school football team.
     

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