i hope to see more of dorsey. He may be lacking on the 1 on 1 defense compare to hayes, but he more than make up with his ability to grab the rebound on the offensive end. Say, Dordry.
Chuck doesn't have the ability to grab a rebound on the offensive end? I thought that was one of his strengths. Over the last 3 seasons, out of 319 players who've played at least 2000 total minutes, he's ranked 15th in offensive rebounding %. That's not bad.
I see no reason not to put out a team designed to beat small ball. Hayes would not be my choice when a team goes small. I would match with Landry (or Scola), Artest, and Battier in the front court. I think this lineup is best suited to guard against small ball and it really opens up our offense.
I'll kind of backtrack on my original post (it was late). With Shane, I think we'll see a lot of Shane and Artest at the forwards, which will cut down opportunities for Landry-Hayes.
Most of you still don't get it. Hayes is a playa. Hayes is one of the most intelligent players on the team. He knows how to play the game and he has great instincts on both ends of the floor. He has great instinct on where to be to make a play. I am fine with the offensive combination of Hayes and Landry at the 5/4 spots with Hayes playing the high post even. Did anybody see that play last night where Hayes got the ball up high turned and dribbled in a step or two and threw in the running jumper from about 12 feet? That's typical Hayes. No, he's not a scorer, he cannot be a scorer, will never be a scorer. But there is no one tougher, no one smarter, no one that understands where to be on the bball court better than Chuck Hayes. You put Hayes in the high post and he will turn around, face, and deliver the correct pass. Or he'll put the ball on the floor, which he does quite well for a big man (since he is so short and built like a penguin), and go to the rim or force the defense to come over where he can create the proper pass. Hayes is not a liability on the offensive end when he has the basketball and he does something with it. He is a liability on the offensive end when he has the basketball and does not move it, either dribble or pass, or when he has to finish underneath against a much taller defender. I would actually like to see Hayes and Scola run together out there and work Yao and Landry together more. I think Yao's and Scola's games are both conducive to creating space when they are playing with other guys besides each other. Both Yao and Scola have great passing instincts out of the low post. If I were Adelman, my rotation would work this way. Start Scola with Yao. Give Scola the first break early about 8 minutes in and go to Landry with Yao. Then bring Scola back in at the beginning of the 2nd quarter with Landry for a couple minutes. Then bring in Hayes to spell Landry and run Hayes and Scola for another 5 minutes or so. Then bring in Yao and Landry together and let them finish off the first half. This gives Hayes about 10 minutes per game depending on foul trouble for whoever, Yao gets his 30 minutes, Scola gets his 30 minutes, and Landry gets around 20 minutes. Of course, you just figure out what matchups work best with Landry and Hayes from there. If Landry is killing it out there, you sit Hayes more. Or if Yao or Scola gets into foul trouble, you can easily give Hayes a few more minutes. The thing is we have 3 of our 4 bigs who are above average (Landry) to great (Yao) offensive options. We really don't need another scoring option as our fourth big man. We need a guy like Hayes that will give us stud defense and rebounding. When you add Deke for spot minutes (which I am sure we will do before the deadline), and you have the option of going to Artest at the 4 in a crunch, that is the perfect big man rotation. Forget all the twin towers crap in L.A. and San Antonio. Those guys gotta play us and they are not versatile enough to match up against us defensively. We are the team with the versatility to play multiple styles. We have the biggest big man that the other team's biggest big man cannot match up with and we also have smaller big man that can play both interior and perimeter, low post and high post, while most other teams have fewer options.
I'd love to see this lineup against the Lakers when they decide to go with their big 4. Battier defending Kobe, McGrady defending Odom, Scola defending Gasol, Yao defending Bynum, And Artest defending Fisher, switching off with Battier, and roaming around creating havoc. Offensively the Lakers have to come back down and go with Bynum defending Yao, Fisher defending McGrady, Kobe likely defending Battier with him switching with Fisher on McGrady, Gasol on Scola/Artest, and Odom on whomever Gasol doesn't take?? Gonna be fun to watch.
In the 4th quarter I think Landry missed a shot & Hayes gets the offensivie rebound. Was watching with a friend who's a Kings fan and and he mutters out loud "come on someone get some dang boards!" To myself I was like thats just Chuck Hayes at work, almost seemed a routine sight. Wasnt anything exciting or fun to watch, but the effectiveness of the play can be measured in opponent frustration.
Hayes turnover % increase by almost 1/2 last season due to him having the ball more during offense. Where he now have a turnover % of 21%. Which translate roughly to every 5 times he have the ball, the ball will turnover once. That by all meant is liability when he have the ball and he does something with it. Maybe i'm wrong, but i'm comparing directly between Hayes and Dorsey. And Dorsey do give me the impression of a better rebounder especially on the offensive end.
