I think it should be legalized. But girls need to be certified for it. They'll need to complete a 1 year course work and depending on the whether they pass the final exam, they should be issued that certificate. The final exam will be administrated by me.
50,000 are brought into the country every year. To suggest they can quit whenever they want is why I didn;t think you understood the term slave.
So you're saying that prostitution should be approached as a business. Point taken. Wouldn't the goal be to maximize your profit? One way to do this is reducing your costs. Like labor? Where can you get some prostitutes that wouldn't demand a lot? Oh, howabout other countries where the prospect of being in America is pretty appealing? Okay, great. Cheap girls. Check. They normally wouldn't be able to afford to come to the US so you're doing them a BIG favor. If they want to leave, just mention how you pulled them out of whatever third world country they're in to be here. They OWE you. They owe YOU. Besides, who are they going to go to anyway? It's like they're trapped in your employment with no way out? But wait... American businesses are nobler than this and NEVER exploit anyone. We pay FAIR wages and we would never take advantage of any third world or developing nations for the sake of cheaper labor, right? Go America! Wait a minute... http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/sweatshops/nike/ http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/10/29/gap.labor/index.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A48612-2005Mar18
I think even if it was a safe service where the pay was adequate and minus the exploitation, it would be very difficult to put on your resume former prostitute should anyone want to change their profession that would be more respectable. Face it. Looks go with age. Enthusiasm with anything dies down generally especially if its not something you love to do, and even if you did love it, your service will lose its value over time. So great someone becomes a prostitute by choice to earn money for a higher education, the stigma that comes with being a prostitute will make it incredibly difficult to do anything but that. Not like you'd get social security with it either. To each their own. I doubt most people going into prostitution would look that far down the road when it comes to their future survival.
I think you're only further supporting the claim that making prostitution legal and regulating it would improve conditions for the workers. These companies you mention are not exploiting workers in the US because they are regulated by the government.
Yeah.. I was going to touch on this eventually. So evil exists in the world. Point taken. If you give people the opportunity to exploit something, they will. We all know this. For example. There is a great, thriving dining industry in this country. I'm willing to bet you there are a lot of restaurants that employ illegal immigrants for as little money as possible, house them almost all together in unlivable conditions, and treat them like utter crap. So, should we stop eating out? Probably not. Is this the fault of our desire to eat out? Nope. Is it the fault of lax regulation? Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessir. As this dude said...
I'm with DonnyMost on this. Like it or not modern slavery isn't just confined to sex slavery, there are many people working as virtual slaves in sweatshops making clothes yet the presence of indentured servitude in the garment industry doesn't mean we ban making clothes. I'm not going to pretend that legalizing prostitution will solve the problems of sexual exploitation of people for profit but what it will do is at least bring a portion of that business out of the shadow and provide some regime of regulation to what is an unregulated industry. The idea would be that while illegal prostitution wouldn't be wiped out there would be enough competition from legal and regulated prostituiton that the impetus to patronize illegal vendors would diminish. For instance why would you go eat at an unlicensed restaurant when you can eat at a licensed one. While I don't deny there will still be people forced into prostitution judging by the pro that serviced Elliot Spitzer there are people who willing engage in prostitution without being kidnapped or drugged into it. So yes legalized prostitution doesn't solve everything but it does allow a portion of the sex trade to be brought out in the open where it can be regulated. Also while even under legal prostitution there will still be illegal prostitution at least under a legal regime where prostitution can be taxed more resources can be used to police illegal prostitution while also giving a legal outlet for those who willing want to engage in prostitution. One more thought. If people are concerned about the morality and societal impacts of legally selling sex should p*rnography be banned as there you have people having sex for money also?
The article doesn't say that legalized prostitution is the cause of having massive illegal prostitution but says that it is Dutch culture turning a blind eye, not enforcing their own laws, and also the government indirectly helping out by providing infrastructure. The article doesn't indicate what might be the situation if Holland enforced its own laws.
The point of this is to suggest that the laws, whether allowing or not allowing prostitution, are of little consequence. In places where prostitution exists. the sex slave trade does as well. And it seems the more prostitution iin a particular place, the more likely a destination for the sex slave trade. Slavery is illegal everywhere...it happens still.
75% in favor....looks like Giddyups attempt attempt at tying abortion and prostitution together to make his case failed miserably. DD
i have views on all this...but you don't want to hear them because it's me forcing my "morals" on you...but where our morals overlap, you're fine with that!
No, actually it confirmed, sadly, what I expected to see. Too bad I didn't make it a public poll; wonder how that would have changed things?
I think that is a bit of a leap considering that the example you cited involved Holland not enforcing its own laws. You've said that the legalism of it is no consequence I disagree and think it is very much of consequence as we are talking about providing a legal outlet as an alternative to going to the black market. For instance during Prohibition illegal stills were a big problem. Even with alchohal legal illegal still still exist but its not as big of a problem since why get moonshine from the backwoods when you can buy Jameson legally. As I said before I don't believe that legal prostitution will do away with the sex trade but I do think that it will help buy bringing regulation to a black market industry. Much of that though does depend on enforcement as going back to the alcohal example if the ATF didn't enforce laws on alcohal I'm sure there would be much much more illegal stills and rum running to avoid taxes.
Speaking for myself that wouldn't change a thing. I think there is a moral question involved but I will put prostitution in the same class as things like Prohibition where I think that the enforcement in some ways exacerbates the problem.
