2006 is right,he said he will go to play baseball after retire (this he has said several times before),and he want to retire in early 30's,but he also said at the same time: he wouldn't retire until he accomplish his basketball career.So it's sounds like he wouldn't play when he's washed up,he wants things have been done earlier. I have seen it several years ago in some magazine.And some days ago when rumors saying Kobe doesn't mind going to Europe to play basketball...some fan on M2 found it from a video and took out this words again. I was watching Sportscentury:Kobe Bryant (found in Defamous23's thread in large clips) and heard a quote from John Salley "I asked him 'Why are you getting married so young?'. He said I do everything young, i went pro young, i'm gonna have my children young, and i'm gonna retire at 28 years old. Then go to Italy in my own squad." Here give you link: http://www.mixmakers.net/forums/nba-basketball/193549-i-believe-kobe-will-go-italy-2009-a.html Like me said above,I don't take T-Mac's words for no want win meaning.Actually now he want to win than many other player -- are there any good player never get out of 1st round and be laughed at by everyone ? When my friend said that words (and he's nothing to do with T-Mac fan) ,I was suprised by his rational thinking. His meaning is: we are human being not robot,we all will have highs then have lows,when we go through some trouble tough,we perhaps will have bad feelings and maybe bad -but just temporarily and will be overcome mind.Players are humans,and T-Mac is never a predator,he's a emotional ordinary person ,and he's a honest guy even before the camera.Maybe you don't know, he really said he thought of retiring he missed bball passion was during the 19 straight lost.After he got back quickly,he told reporters about his temporarily journey of the heart ,just like T.J. Ford told reporters later that he thought of retire when he fell down onto the court.Maybe you don't like such man,you want a perfect hero(oh but many heros usually have their lows,at least in the movies),but you can try to understand and accept such man and no need to get too angry and disappointed. Nobody would say he didn't give 100% in the first 3 years,he took on the pressure which didn't belong to him or didn't exist at first (remember he's just a candidate of sixth man of year before go to Magic and he's going to play aside Hill ),kept carrying the team on his injured back ( he had the back problem since 2001,it's because of his congenital scoliosis + wore out + was horrible hurted in the games by opponents),his records of continue 30+ /20+ pts games broke because himself requested to be on court halfway from injured-list when Magic was pounded by Dallas .Many ppl said he wore out his body in Magic but to say he didn't give 100%. I guess some ppl include you think it because of the last Magic year? Because of himself words after he came here? In early 2005,after Weisbrod -- who has been Magic manager since March,2004 --bashed T-Mac that he watched him as a selfish,sloth,couldn't make teammates better etc. through media, T-Mac told to a reporter of SI in a one on one interview ,that he "some nights did slack off ,he knew that was a terrible thing to do but when in those situations every finger is pointing at you...it becomes so hard to get up for every games.That feels so bad.That was wrong.And he learned." It isn't because T-Mac didn't give 100% so they lost 19 games straight,it is after they lost lost lost and all blame came upon T-Mac including his new manager,he began to can't stop slacking off.It's T-Mac's biggest fault and his immaturity ,and he learned it, does this make his all 4 years Magic effort negative, is this hell worse and couldn't be forgived and forgotten forever just define him no change even if humans are growing up? Not to mention,many players choose to take a rest in later season when the team is in bad record,include Wade ,PP34,KG,right? Yao said he believed the midia describing about Artest before ,instead of actually know that Artest,maybe so are some ppl to Mcgrady... I think I'm saying old Magic.Don't you argue with somebody that T-Mac wanted to leave Magic that isn't want to win? If I mistaked,then my bad.I haven't seen all posts. You don't understand my meaning previous one,so here you couldn't understand too.I just talked about your point that T-Mac want to leave Magic is not want to win.I give an example:if everything T-Mac has gone through in Orlando happend in Houston for Yao Ming,maybe most Yao fan ( Yao frist fan,that mean love Yao over love Rockets) would want Yao to leave Houston to look for another team which has good players...why?--want to win.
I hope he's not Maxwell on steroids, then he'll start hurling workout equipment like frisbees and destroy the entire workout facility. he would make the Detroit Brawl look like a pillow fight. I hope he's not Maxwell on steriods!
I miss how Maxwell was so interactive with the fans. I went down courtside to yell at Ray Allen cause he was injured and not dressed for the game. So Ray is dressed nice so I say "Hey what's up Jesus Shuttlesworth!" not a response. When I was at the Seattle vs Rockets game where Gary Peyton killed Steve Francis, they put Maxwell in the game cause the game was over. So I yelled from the cheapest seats on the lower level (20 rows up?) "Yo Vernon!" He looked up. I miss Vernon! I think Ron will be interactive with the fans and yell colorful language!
I think I never try to change the fact we ever destroyed that team? Do I? I don't know what you want to show on earth through it. If you want to improve that team isn't so good ,I think I never say they're good,I just say they're not that bad couldn't beat a high school team you should give deserved respect.And you try to find something debate with me about it,why? If you want to say Rockets could surely beat them if meet in the playoffs,then I won't agree you.Just one game,not every game,and even sweep in regulars, it's not surely in playoffs.I would be cautious.Such as Maigc usually beat them in regulars,and we was destroyed by them last season.
Oh, I have loved RON RON for so many years,the day he came town I couldn't even Close mouth but just smile smile smile the whole day! hiahia~~
The East in 2001 was weak. That was just a fact. Any team from the West would have defeated them in the Finals. you picked a bad example in the Sixers.
Wrong. Tmac's play is inconsistent. Sometimes he plays great. Other times, he disappears. So sorry, but your "genetic scoliosis" argument is invalid. Wrong again. It was obvious Yao had to be on the court. But to do so, he would have to guard either Boozer or Okur. It was the logical choice for Yao to guard the player that spends more time closer to the basket. In other words, guarding Boozer was the lesser of two evils. Agreed. During that year, it was clear that Yao was the 2nd option. He maybe have put up solid numbers, but he was weak (in terms of strength). Yao is often the best player on the court, but due to his poor 3pt shooting teammates, he's not effectively utilized. Wrong again. Yao is an important part of the team. There will always be pressure on him. Are those stats from the regular season or the playoffs? Since we're talking about playoff implications, it would make sense to use playoff stats. And those dont look like playoff stats. I want players that will shoot consistently throughout the regular season and the playoffs. Do you know what it takes to carry a team? The ability to consistently score when single covered. The ability to consistently draw a double team. The ability to find the open man. The ability to play consistently solid defense. Essentially, the ability to be everywhere and do everything. Yao cant carry the team in the sense that he'll dominate everything, but he is more than capable of being the first and best option on the court as well as the player that takes the last shot. All the players you listed except for deron (kobe, tmac, paul, wade, lebron) were the only stars on the team which makes it far easier to shine. How well did kobe carry the lakers when shaq was in town? How well did tmac carry the raptors when he was with vince carter? Tmac lost the ability to carry a team when he started losing his athleticism and failed to adapt his game.
Otis Thrope shot 59% with the Rockets, he was instrumental in the Rockets 3 point attack cause teams have to account for him in the lost post as well as Dream. They had to account for him in the pick and roll. If the Rockets low post was not strong, we would not have wide open shots. nobody is scared of Chuck Haye's low post game.
First round exits. Whats your point? At the very least, players that "carry" teams need to be good 2-way players. Tmac's defense is average.
I explained the criteria I was using. 3 point threats. Theres no sense in arguing it. Notice how I didnt make any reference to Scola even though he's a low post threat.
wow, you're just unbelievable. like i said, the way you describe yao, he's like a super-duper star, and yet you defend his play like he's an average star.
Do you notice that when I refute your arguments, I take your post and refute your assertions one by one? Its an effective form of debating....moreso than giving general statements like you did just now.
Man, you can't blame him because Yao got injured and didn't appear in the playoffs. You can't blame him Rafer went out, you can't blame him Shane was hurt... I remember you, I know you always try to put everything on McGrady and say nothing is Yao's fault but damn, you are NOT RIGHT.
I have never said that this past year's playoff failure was Tmac's fault. In fact, I said the opposite. I said that we had no chance against the Jazz without Yao. And no, I dont try to put everything on Tmac, but when he makes mistakes, I dont ignore them.
What a r****ded assumption. If you bothered to read any of my posts, you'd see that I am well aware of his deficiencies.
