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If something happened to Obama, would you hold the McCain campaign responsible?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Franchise2001, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. Franchise2001

    Franchise2001 Contributing Member

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    I believe that all is fair in love and war and this election hit full war mode this week.

    The McCain campaign has unloaded a full scale attack on Obama's character and is linking him to terrorists and calling him a terrorist. Many right-wingers playfully joke with Obama's name (eg: Osama/Obama.. whats the difference?).

    Now we see videos with people screaming "kill him." I don't know about you, but this scares the living crap out of me. The #1 worst thing that could happen to this country would be an Obama assassination. The aftermath is unfathomable and I hope to god and for this country, that it never happens.

    All the presidential assassins of the past thought they were patriots. For one candidate to imply Obama, a man who won his party's primary, as a terrorist, who is guilty by association, will INSPIRE the crazies.

    I rarely ask for much during political discourse. You say what you wanna say, and I'll analyze your logic and find flaws. I'm a contrarian by nature. However, we seriously need to cool down the rhetoric on both sides before one looney toon decides he's a patriot.

    If for some reason, something happens to Obama... I will blame the entire ultra-conservative wing of our country that condones this sort of political discourse and madness at a time where we need unity.
     
  2. IROC it

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    "kill him" was aimed at Bill Ayers, if you read it in context...



    Let's put it this way for fairness... if something happened to McCain would the Obama campaign be held responsible?




    Furthermore, why even pose the hypothetical question?
     
  3. halfbreed

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    No. Next.
     
  4. Spacemoth

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    Obama might be a charismatic person whose closest historical parallel could be JFK, but the fact that he is having so much trouble beating a Republican party after eight years of George Bush is a testament in my opinion to how much race really is adversely affecting his campaign. Either that or the media's spinning of all matters to keep the race close enough for voters to tune in.

    I have had this conversation with other Republicans and agreed with them that the Republicans would have had a harder time going against Hillary, even though I supported Obama against her. The fact of the matter is that the loss of ANY Democratic candidate to a Republican counterpart after the civilization-threatening debacle of the Bush administration should be seen as a collosal failure--on part of both the Democratic party as well as the American people--regardless of who the names on the ticket are.

    If something were to happen to Obama during this race or his time in office, it would be a tragedy along the lines of JFK, MLK, and Robert Kennedy. But that doesn't absolve the voters of this country from doing their duty and ousting a party that has gone too far, has forgotten its essential ethos of small government and fiscal responsibility, has abused its base of voters to no end and worked only to secure the privileges of its wealthy and entitled.

    I would love to vote for a conservative candidate. But Ron Paul is no longer a candidate. This country owes it to the world to rectify its government and begin the rebuilding process of updating our infrastructure, economy, and health care system into something compatible with the 21st century. And honestly this is the LEAST we should be expecting from our politicians.

    As much as the Republican party hates to hear it, the race is not as close as the media is making it out to be. A Democrat will get the chance to try to fix this awful mess, whether it's Obama or Biden or someone else. And the Republicans will probably get their chance again soon, but they'll have to first gut out any ties to the Bush regime.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

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    You should be banned for this. Seriously.

    ...and how is Obama promoting unity by attacking Sarah Palin's family and John McCain's service to our nation? What a joke...
     
  6. GuerillaBlack

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    We can have a book series on stuff you should be banned for.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    If anything happened to BHO I would be very, very worried for the future of our country.

    I can see blood shed... I can see riots... I can see race relations being set back 50 years...

    But who wants to turn him into a martyr for the modern progressive movement? It could backfire like crazy...
     
  8. durvasa

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    If he's killed by some loon who thinks he's a terrorist, I would hold them accountable. They crossed the line with this "he pals around with terrorists" rhetoric. When your base has been brainwashed into thinking we're in a Holy War against "Terror", and at the same time you put all your efforts into portraying Obama as a terrorist-sympathizer -- what exactly is the message you're sending? That's totally irresponsible.

    The Right has decided to paint the world in Black and White. "You're either with us, or you're against us", and all that ****. And with the over-the-top implications that Obama is not with us, they better damn well take some heat if some lunatic takes all the crap they say too much to heart. I mean, if its ok to torture terrorists, to take away all their rights, to hunt down terrorists indiscriminately including those who harbor and support them ... if all of that is alright, is it so much of a stretch that some nutter will take the next step and commit murder against a President he's been deceived into thinking has no problems with terrorism?
     
  9. IROC it

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    I don't think the stereotypical culprit would be the one to watch for. Some folks in his home town can't stand him.

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  10. DonnyMost

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    That doesn't sound like someone who wants to kill him to me, just someone on the radio with no verified credibility taking swipes at the air with wild accusations and claims.

    Do like I did in your thread, talk about the topic :) (in other words, how do you feel McCain's portrayal of Obama would affect his responsibility should anything happen to him)
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    I think it would really have to depend on the circumstances. I agree that a lot of the McCain's campaign is overheated but to a certain extent I look at this as the same as blaming school shootings on Nine Inch Nails and video games. While McCain's attacks are meant to undermine trust in Obama I think it would take someone already predisposed to some serious mental illness to take those as a call to assisinate Obama. For someone like that while perhaps McCain's rhetoric might drive them to decide to take out Obama who's to say that watching Saw V might not drive them to kidnap and torture someone.

    There are many times I doubt the sanity of American voters I don't feel thought that for the vast vast vast majority of American voters that overheated campaign rhetoric will drive them to become Sirhan Sirhan.

    That said I agree that if something terrible were to happen to Obama it would be very bad for this nation.
     
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    You know Iroc, I really hope you're right about the "kill him" being directed at Ayers and not Obama. But even a right leaner can see that what Palin/McCain are doing is really stirring up something to the point of it being immoral. Obama at worst is implying that McCain, through previous gaffes, sucks with the economy and banking systems.

    Palin and McCain are implying that Obama harbors terrorists.
     
  14. Invisible Fan

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    I guess there's Hillary as a spare, but if something unfortunate happened to Obama, I'd wonder how a higher power influences these kinds of things.

    If I did hold the McCain campaign responsible, it'd be out of anger or rage than any pure rational point.
     
  15. rimrocker

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    In the 40 years since the assassination of RFK, which was preceeded by JFK and MLK, conservatives have held the presidency for 28 of those years and reached their high water mark in political influence.
     
  16. Batman Jones

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    I think what the McCain camp is doing lately is reprehensible. But I wouldn't blame them if something happened to Obama. Frankly, I'd be more inclined to blame the media for not shaming the McCain campaign into dropping this irresponsible tact. Every single talking head, on the left and the right, should be denouncing this crap as a shallow distraction during a time that voters really need to be considering each man's plans.
     
  17. HOOP-T

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    This thread is now part of the Axis of Evil.
     
  18. Mr. Brightside

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    If something happened to Obama, not only would I hold McCain responsible, but I would also write an angry letter to my congressman.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    I take it you would riot?
     
  20. giddyup

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    There's a problem right there...
     

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