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NFL Week 5

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by moestavern19, Oct 5, 2008.

  1. JunkyardDwg

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    Did not appreciate Kornheiser's comment about Mario/Texans and Bush though.
     
  2. moestavern19

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    Kornheiser is an idiot.

    Apparently a punt return touchdown here and there, 90 swing pass catches, and a 2.5 ypc average is worth 12 sacks.
     
  3. Icehouse

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    You know they are just waiting for a chance to slob their hero. Mario has shown that he was a justified pick though...and this comes from someone who was against the pick. Bush is more WR than RB....
     
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    I don't get why kornheiser is on the commentating team he is good as a general sports guy like on pti but he adds nothing to mnf at all.
     
  5. ryan17wagner

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    Where did you get that from?

    He has 31 catches for 8.3 this year and 192 catches for 7.4 for his career. Lying's not cool.

    http://www.nfl.com/players/reggiebush/careerstats?id=BUS294963
     
  6. moestavern19

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    Wow.

    I'm sorry i didn't know you were too idiotic to realize I was talking about yearly production.

    I'll include a pie chart next time to avoid confusion.
     
  7. ryan17wagner

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    Uh, oh! An internet tough guy.
     
  8. moestavern19

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    uh oh! another guy who can't come back with any evidence to support his claim so he commits a fatal argumentative fallacy by throwing out a weak ad hominem attack!

    Go back to watching ESPN to figure out who you need to like.
     
  9. ryan17wagner

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    Bush's Average per touches this year: Rush: 3.5, Catch:8.3, PR: 21.3.
     
  10. Icehouse

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    Those averages aren't great, especially when your main asset is being a "gamebreaker".

    He catches a lot of balls and I think they are using him right....he just isn't much of a running back. He is still producing and helping his team win. Tonight's game is a perfect example. The two punt returns really helped his team to get back into the game. However, his lack of running ability and fumble helped the team get down.
     
  11. moestavern19

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    He is an electrifying playmaker when he has the ball and space in front of him...

    He's just not a good running back, in fact he's barely average.
     
  12. BmwM3

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    Gramatica sucks!!! The Saints got screwed in the first half by the refs.
     
  13. tinman

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    hahaha he does
     
  14. ryan17wagner

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    Oh, yes he does. He cost him 10 points that I know of. The blocked FG for a TD and the missed on.
     
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    If it wasn't for Bush this game wouldn't have even been close. Bush did everything he could to try and get his team the win. Vikings also have one of the top run-defenses.... I like how you blame it on the lack of Reggies running ability. How about Brees having to throw to scrubs.... or Gramatica choking on yet another very manageable Field goal attempt.
     
  16. doboyz

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    Wait are you saying 8.3 yards a catch is good?
    Here are the receiving leaders in terms of yardage up to Reggie Bush, notice the only one in single digit average yards per catch.

    RNK NAME REC YDS AVG YPG LNG TD FUM LST
    1 Greg Jennings WR, GNB 29 569 19.6 113.8 62 3 0 0
    2 L. Fitzgerald WR, ARI 31 467 15.1 93.4 75 4 0 0
    3 Roddy White WR, ATL 26 454 17.5 90.8 70 2 0 0
    4 Jason Witten TE, DAL 35 442 12.6 88.4 42 2 0 0
    5 Lee Evans WR, BUF 16 432 27.0 86.4 87 2 1 1
    6 B. Marshall WR, DEN 34 423 12.4 105.8 35 3 1 0
    7 Santana Moss WR, WAS 27 421 15.6 84.2 67 3 0 0
    8 Anquan Boldin WR, ARI 27 366 13.6 91.5 79 5 1 1
    9 M. Muhammad WR, CAR 25 358 14.3 71.6 47 2 0 0
    10 T. Houshmandzadeh WR, CIN 31 351 11.3 70.2 26 3 0 0
    11 Reggie Wayne WR, IND 25 350 14.0 87.5 40 3 0 0
    12 D. Jackson WR, PHI 23 335 14.6 67.0 60 1 1 0
    13 Terrell Owens WR, DAL 19 331 17.4 66.2 72 5 0 0
    14 Dwayne Bowe WR, KAN 27 324 12.0 64.8 30 2 0 0
    15 Eddie Royal WR, DEN 30 321 10.7 64.2 29 2 1 1
    16 Hines Ward WR, PIT 24 316 13.2 63.2 49 4 0 0
    17 Andre Johnson WR, HOU 24 310 12.9 77.5 39 1 0 0
    18 V. Jackson WR, SDG 17 302 17.8 60.4 60 1 0 0
    19 C. Johnson WR, DET 19 292 15.4 73.0 47 2 0 0
    20 Chris Cooley TE, WAS 25 288 11.5 57.6 27 1 0 0
    21 A. Bryant WR, TAM 24 278 11.6 55.6 38 0 0 0
    22 Isaac Bruce WR, SFO 14 275 19.6 55.0 63 4 0 0
    23 Randy Moss WR, NWE 17 274 16.1 68.5 66 2 1 1
    24 S. Holmes WR, PIT 17 271 15.9 54.2 48 1 1 0
    S. Breaston WR, ARI 20 271 13.6 54.2 40 0 0 0
    26 Matt Jones WR, JAC 23 269 11.7 53.8 33 1 0 0
    27 Steve Smith WR, CAR 16 262 16.4 87.3 56 1 0 0
    28 Derrick Mason WR, BAL 21 261 12.4 65.3 35 0 0 0
    29 T. Scheffler TE, DEN 16 259 16.2 51.8 72 2 1 1
    P. Burress WR, NYG 18 259 14.4 86.3 33 1 0 0
    31 L. Coles WR, NYJ 18 257 14.3 64.3 54 4 0 0
    Reggie Bush RB, NOR 31 257 8.3 64.3 42 2 0 0
     
  17. ryan17wagner

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    Show me where I said that was good.
     
  18. Icehouse

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    And if it weren't for him laying the ball on the ground (which lead to points), or falling with no one around him on another punt return then they might have won. With all that being said, he had a productive night because he found the end zone twice. He still sucked running the ball, as usual.

    Bust struggles to run when he is facing teams without top notch run defenses. He just isn't that good of a runner.

    Hmm, so his lack of running ability didn't hurt his team in the end when they couldn't milk the clock or get the FG kicker closer? This is their second loss like that this season...where they had no RB to milk clock or continue a gamewinning drive by running...which leads to passing and giving the other team time to come win the game. His fumble didn't help get his team behind?

    I point out the good and the bad. Bush is productive and the Saints are using him correctly based on what he can do...running not being one of those things.
     
  19. BmwM3

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    To be fair, the refs missed that face mask call when he fumbled it.
     

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