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Don't ever scream for Sage Rosenfels to start again.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by msn, Oct 5, 2008.

  1. London'sBurning

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    We'll see. ;) I'll be sure to bump this when it happens. If it doesn't, to quote Mike Tyson I'll make sure its destroyed into Bolivia. :D
     
  2. MadMax

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    it would be great!!! i hope you're right. i think it's extremely doubtful.
     
  3. msn

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    I'm revising my 8-8 or 7-9 preseason prediction to 5-11 or 6-10.
     
  4. Robert Snyder

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    Sage's inspiration for yesterday.... Willie Beamen and Cap Rooney. Fast forward to the 1:30-1:50 portion of the video. Too bad Oliver Stone wasn't filming at Reliant....

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  5. Landlord Landry

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    did you even watch the last 4-5 minutes?

    they did run the ball. Dungy called TO.

    they did run the ball. Dungy called TO.

    3rd and 9........what, you want them to run it again with the 2 minute warning and another Indy TO?

    the prevent defense wasn't a total blunder, the Texans still had a 2 score lead with a few minutes and getting the ball back, Indy couldn't stop the run for most of the day.....Kubiak wasn't completley clueless for thinking his team could do what they had been doing all day and kill the clock.

    this entire game is on Sage. period. For 56 minutes, everyone was on the same page and an excellent game plan was being executed. One single player demolished that in 3.5 minutes.
     
  6. MadMax

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    i think 5-6 wins is about right.
     
  7. rrj_gamz

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    Sage just choked in the last couple of minutes...If Matt started, the Texans would have been blown out and it wouldn't have come to this...IMHO...
     
  8. msn

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    Disagree. I don't think Matt is the long-term answer at all, but as I understand it the running game (as is usually the case against the Colts) is what got the Texans in control of the game. Until Sage served it to them with a glass of wine and a caviar garnish, anyway.
     
  9. leroy

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    YES! That's exactly how you prevent your qb from doing his best helicopter impersonation and putting the ball on the ground...twice.

    The same prevent defense that let the Colts go 70 yards in a very short period of time to make it 27-17? Oh, and you proved my point about why they should have been running and not even thinking about passing.

    That I can agree with.
     
  10. benchmoochie

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    Everyone is saying how the next three home games are all winnable. I beg to differ. Texans go 1-2 or 2-1 at best.
     
  11. justtxyank

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    Yes, run the ball again. And then, since you were so close into their territory, you get a choice. You can either run the clock all the way off and take the penalty and then punt, punt at the last second etc. You force Indy to either burn a time out or lose those extra 25 seconds. You were up three scores at that point, the first down wasn't important. Only time. Had you run the ball there, and ended up punting, it's likely that Indy's next possession was the last of the game.

    Agree entirely. Sage's decision to not go down and instead fight for an extra yard when all we needed was to kill the clock is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen a QB do. The yard was meaningless. Whether he got the first down or not, the game was over. Either we got the first down and ran out the final minutes, or they got the ball back and ran out the final minutes trying to score. The only way they could win was to get a turnover for a touchdown. Kubiak's poor decision to let the QB try to make a play coupled with Sage's idiocy cost them the game in the final minutes, but most of the blame falls on Sage.
     
  12. Cannonball

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    There's a difference between games being winnable and actually winning those games. Our last 2 games were very winnable. We held the lead late in the fourth quarter. We didn't win, but we should/could have. That makes them winnable. Miami is a little better than expected. We could win that one. That means the game is winnable. Detroit and Cincy are a combined 0-9. We should win those. But even if we go 0-3, all of those game are winnable.
     
  13. MadMax

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    Miami is a LOT better than I expected. A whole heaping helping load better. I circled that game as a "W" before the season. Now, I'd lean towards loss. Does Vegas have a line on the game yet?
     
  14. droxford

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    Yeah, believe it or not, the 2008 season is over.

    I mean, seriously, We're not going to go 8-4 to get a .500 season (much less a winning season). And that means we surely won't make the playoffs, let alone advancing in the playoffs, or competing for the championship.

    Really. The season's over.

    Just like that.

    Might as well try to auction off your tickets for what pennies you can get for 'em.

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  15. Hey Now!

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    the first fumble happened at 3:54 on 3rd and 8 - yes, they should have run: HB dive right up the middle with both arms wrapped around the football. do that and you drain the clock to, roughly, 3:15. even if you don't convert, indy likely has to burn its 3rd TO and/or you let another :40-ish run off the clock before you punt and make them DRIVE/USE TIME for points.

    by getting "cute," the texans missed an opportunity to drain some 80 seconds off the clock and/or however long it would have taken the colts to return the punt + they still have to drive (likely) 80-something yards. and that's just to get within 3.

    that's where the game was lost. and that's on the coaching staff.

    by rolling out the QB and then calling for two pass plays???? you had it right initially: the colts couldn't stop the run for most of the day - so why are you NOT running?

    blame sage all you want for making bad football decisions (and he did), but the coaching issues were far worse, IMO. you don't put a career back-up in that situation. not only is he a back-up for a reason but he's probably not well-practiced at ending ball games and doing the "smart" thing.

    kubiak has shown a knack for personnel and he does make week-to-week adjustments quite well. but some of his in-game decisions are mind-boggling. especially with guys like rhodes and gibbs on staff. if this was year 1, even early in year 2 - those are growing pains and somewhat acceptable. in year 3, though? it's problematic.
     
  16. Landlord Landry

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    Miami is a one trick play away from possibly being 1-3. They barely snuck by a San Diego team that is seriously not as good as everyone wanted/predicted them to be. Miami can't expect to keep running that same play every week with the same results.

    Texans take their frustrations out on a weak Miami team.

    32-10.
     
  17. msn

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    I freaking hope so. I hope it's not "Texans take frustrations out on weak Miami team for 56 minutes; Kubiak/Rosenfumble orchestrate 31-point turnaround for the Dolphins in final 3:30."
     
  18. Two Sandwiches

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    The Texans WILL beat the Dolphins.

    Slaton will run wild. I can't see any way we lose that game.

    If they do, I'll be severely depressed.
     
  19. Carlos Nice

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    i was there. section 133, row S, seats 14 and 15.

    the entire stadium went FLAT after Rosenfels got "helicoptored" in the air that ultimately lead to that fumble.

    the bad thing was that after the Colts won, there was a HUGE fight outside in the Blue Lot tailgaters section.

    an old 50 something year old dude wearing a Colts jersey headbutted the living **** out of another younger dude. i was there like the paparazzi taking pictures. the busted up dude saw me taking pics of him and he threw up the duece at me, HAHA !!! enjoy.


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  20. Landlord Landry

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    well, I can see where people would want a run there, but the naked bootleg worked, and it was taking more time off the clock then running it up the middle for 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Sage had the option....throw it into to the stands or run for 5 yards and slide. Gary Kubiak shouldn't have to tell Sage not to be an unnecssary hero. Those are things Sage should have learned in high school and college.
     

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