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Anyone else worried about Tmac's weight?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotblooded, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. SMUSMU

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    I have to find the picture in one of these threads on media day where T-Mac was walking in the tunnel, and I thought " Damn T-Mac put on some weight". That is what preseason is for.
     
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  3. Jeff Who

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    Yeah, this one looks horrible
     
  4. MayoRocket

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    Hakeem used to put on weight too in the offseason, but then he'd lose it before the regular season was underway.

    I remeber this video of Hakeem on channel 13 years ago when he was playing during the summer at Fonde to get in shape before training camp. He was playing with his shirt off and looked ripped. Everyone was talking about how he needed to lose weight though. Same thing with McGrady.
     
  5. RV6

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    1. That picture is a bad one because his jersey is untucked and hanging forward, so it makes his stomach look bigger than it really is.

    2. Yes, he's gained weight, like mentioned here before and in the other media day thread, if you are recovering from shoulder and knee surgery you can't do upper OR lower body workouts for a while. He would only be doing repetitive and light workouts to get his range of motion and strength in that area. However, he hasn't gained enough weight for it to be a huge topic of discussion. Look at his legs, still like twigs. So are his forearms. Only his face and upper body seem "fatter", which is probably because everyone puts on weight differently, so when tmac gains an extra 5 or 10 lbs it probably stars accumulating in his face and upper body first. If his outer limbs start looking chunky, THEN its time to panic.

    3. The majority of NBA players gain weigth in the offseason. Especially those who are hardgainers like Tmac. During the offseason there's less cardio, more lifting to increase muscle, more time to eat and sit around. Once the season starts, there's a whole lot more running, less time to overeat and more moving around. Most players also stop weight training to gain size and switch to training just to maintain their size, however with all the extra running over the course of the season, they end up losing mass and looking a lot leaner at season's end. Then the cycle starts all over again in the summer.

    4. I'm new here, but i'v been on other boards and I've always felt tmac's workouts were not benefiting him, but rather wearing out his body. He doesn't use proper form most of the time, cheats, and uses momentum, which may pump up major muscles, but the joints are being cheated out of a workout and therefore don't always see benefits. This video shows it :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY91oQiq5zo

    He does the leg press the best, but the rest aren't quality reps. If tmac was trained by someone like Tim Grover or Falsone, he'd be ALMOST as good as Kobe (working out, unfortunately, doesn't solve his lack of killer instinct).
     
  6. Classic

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    ^^I agree about the workouts. The trainer that he uses is a joke. When he's doing bench press and bouncing it off his chest the point that the bar is under parallel (when his elbows are at a 90 degree angle) all the weight is transferring from his chest to his rotator cuff. It is no suprise, as a personal trainer, to see that he now has shoulder arthritis.
     
  7. TTRocket

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    You know, I actually noticed this too. His form on the bench press is terrible, and I wouldn't be surprised if thats what has caused his shoulder arthritis. I mean what else could he be possibly doing to his shoulders causing them to break down at the age of 29 without using terrible form during weightlifting???

    His training methods need to be reevaluated.
     
  8. Shay

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    Guys maybe it was acting for the camera , just to show T-Mac's routine.

    He has a professional personal trainer , no way imo he doesn't know how T-Mac needs to train , it doesn't make sense.

    And we all see the way he worked out was terrible , so acting for the camera will be my guess.
     
  9. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    Well it looks like its all muscle and not fat so I'm not worried.
     
  10. RV6

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    How do you "act" like you're working out? If anything, acting would be a bad thing for him, especially for his trainer because it would reflect negatively on his training mehtods. His clients aren't really that impressive, and its very possible Tmac has stuck with him out of loyalty more than anything. Players often do that because its tough to trust people in the business. Also, being a pro-anything doesn't always mean you know what you're doing, just look at Landry's agent.
     
  11. RV6

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    The form he's using isn't all bad, for a lot of people it works just fine and never causes any problems, but ita true that it puts more stress on the shoulder joint. But for someone like Tmac, who has long and thin limbs, its best to shorten the distance between the weight and joint, so he should be tucking in his shoulders to ease the load on his shoulder joint. That being said, its very possible this was the cause of his injury, especially when he has a muscle imbalance, which you can see in the video when the bar starts to tip to one side during the bench press.
     
  12. Dave_78

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    He's a professional athlete. There is no excuse to get fat in the off season. Yes, I know he had two surgeries that curtailed his activity level but you can always....wait for it...EAT LESS. He could have also done low impact cardio shortly after the surgeries to help stay in shape. The excuses about him being injured or that his trainer is bad are just BS. He doesn't want to put the time in during the summer and that's his choice but you would think a guy with a max deal might care a little bit more.

    For those saying the weight will come off during the season you should look at Tmac's history. When he came back two seasons ago he was fat at the beginning and stayed fat all the way through the playoff elimination. Take a look at him on opening day and get used to it because he will still look like that in April.
     
  13. bingsha10

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    no, T-mac will be ready to play. Heck, with Artest he doesn't even have to score as much anymore and can play the role of giant decoy like the rockets were able to do to get that winning streak going.
     
  14. hotblooded

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    At this stage, Artest maybe a better scorer than Tmac

    So Tmac will be the main facilitator

    but We will need him to knock down open shots, which he hasnt been able to do in the last few seasons


    Open shots are "give mes"
     
  15. T.Mcgrady

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    Yeah - I'm not seeing how people can call that fat.... he's older and his face isn't as skinny as it used to be; he's still ripped.
     
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    look like hes ready to dunk on somebody!
     
  17. RV6

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    He's not fat, but he did gain fat. Tmac's never really been ripped either, He just has a thin frame. If anyone has ever seen him shirtless, he's always carried a bit of fat on him, never has really lowered his body fat enough to come close to a six pack or be "ripped".
     
  18. RV6

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    He had knee surgery. Low impact cardio still requires him to actually move his knee joint, which is not what you want to do right after surgery. Even after the shoulder surgery he would be advised to reast for a while. Eating less is not always a good thing, unless you're already overeating. He could have lost a lot of muscle mass by eating less and still retained fat. Then he would be coming in fatter AND weaker. He probably doesn't need to lose more than 10 pounds AT MOST. He should lose 5-7 easily by opening night now that he's practicing almost daily with the team.

    His trainer being bad was not an excuse for him gaining weight, but for his body wearing down.
     
  19. Nitro1118

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    Look at Kobe at the start of the 06-07 season. He spent most of the summer rehabilitating an injured knee and came in VERY out of shape. Same can be seen with Wade last season...he came into the season out of shape due to an offseason of rehabilitation.

    In 2006-2007, T-Mac came in out of shape, and eventually worked himself into shape after his 7 game stint of missed games in December. After that, he went on to have arguably his best 2-month stretch as a Rocket where he led the Yao-less Rockets to a 21-11 record and averaged 29PPG.
     
  20. hotblooded

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    I dont think anyone is doubting Tmac's ability to get in shape, its just a funny observation thats all
     

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