Rockets agree deal with rookie center/forward Dorsey

This is a brilliant deal!

I love the way Morey is dealing with absolute shrewdness in these player negotiations, and above all the calibre of players he has secured for our team.

This is just my analysis:

-we have secured a 25 year old, proven at college level, to when he is 28. Thus he will be playing at least half of his prime years with us.

-a four year deal means if Joey becomes good, (probably never at the Monta Ellis level), he will still be dirt cheap salary-wise. If he isn't good, which is unlikely given his size and strength, we can give him the boot after 2 seasons

-Minimal impact on salary cap

Its also a good deal for Joey himself...he gets a first rounders deal, being a 2nd rounder.

 

That's the only way to trade him? Where the hell have you been!?!

Landry has a bum knee to start with, through college up to now, you don't know when its gonna collapse and we all saw how energetic he was afterward.

So assuming, just ASSUMING, that JD brings himself to be just as good as Landry if not better a trade involving Landry would be the best move to get a PG that could prove more reliable. Landry being the target and Head being the drop off.

Who is this 4th PG you talk about? Barry is not a PG. He wasn't brought here to play the one, but more of a 2 behind Tmac. DStrawberry? Enough said.

2nd best PF?? Yeah he is good but you praise him as if we can't advance past the first round with or without him.

'Only way to trade him is if he has a bum knee', LOL!

 

The best thing about this deal is that since Dorsey has a minimum 3 year deal we would acquire his bird rights when he becomes a FA again, so if he turns out to be good then we wouldn't have the landry situation again

Morey for life

 

really good to hear that.^^

 

What the hell have you been reading LOL! Landry is without a doubt our second best PF LOL! Your talking about me praising landry, your praising a guy who hasnt played a minute of NBA action, I guess asses assume. Yes, we have 3-4 guys capable of playing pg, yes throw barry and strawberry in there LOL! Just because thats not their natural position doesnt mean they cant play it...like say a 6 7 guy as center (see what I did there LOL?) And I meant that we arnt getting rid of landry unless his knee stops him from being the player that he was at the begining of the season LOLZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!!

 

WHEW!

I cant really wear my other novak jersey too much anymore, I cant at all wear my Donte Greene jersey.

Thank God I can still wear my Dorsey jersey! Otherwise I would have been screwed buying 2 customized jerseys so quickly.

 

Great explanation, NIKEstrad.

Another thing to consider is the luxury tax implications of this deal. Or, more importantly, the lack thereof.

I don't know how concrete the "$3.5 million" figure reported actually is. But if you take the minimum salary for a two-year veteran for each of the next four years and add them up, you get about $3,361,760. If this is the actual total amount of Dorsey's deal, then Morey has outdone himself even more.

Regardless of how little a team pays its rookies, for luxury tax purposes, the league counts the two-year veteran minimum towards the tax threshold. So, if Dorsey is actually getting the figure above, which is only slightly less than the reported $3.5M, then his increased salary (above the rookie minimum) will have ZERO impact on the Rockets' luxury tax situation for the entire life of the contract.

If so, then I have one more reason to idolize Daryl Morey.

 

I posted this elsewhere, but I heard Morey on 610 about 30 minutes ago talking about the Dorsey contract and he said "we don't really expect him to play much at all this year".

It seems like an about face from after the draft when he said Dorsey's ready to contribute "right away". Something has changed their minds.

 

BimaThug,

Are you saying that not all salaries count towards the luxury tax threshold? I'm pretty sure that if the sum of all your salaries due exceeds the LT, you pay tax. that is to say, there are no Luxury Tax Exceptions. Sounds like you are describing a Luxury Tax Exception.

 

Maybe the pumping up earlier in the summer was just to have perceived leverage in the Landry negotiations...

 

LOL! These must be some new rules in NBA salary cap.

 

Didn't think it would be smart to make a new thread on 2 low key signings, but the Rockets also signed center Marcus Campbell and Guard Von Wafer yesterday along with Dorsey. Probably just training camp guys though.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-rockets-dorsey&prov=ap&type=lgns

 

No. What I am saying is that rookies and one-year veterans making the minimum salary actually count MORE against the luxury tax than the actual salary being paid to those players. The league counts all minimum salary players (whether it's a rookie or a 17-year vet like Mutombo) against the luxury tax at the minimum salary for a two-year veteran.

My point was that, if the Rockets are paying Dorsey the equivalent of the two-year veteran minimum (even though he's only a second-round rookie) in each year of his contract, then his salary will have no more effect on the Rockets' luxury tax situation than if he was playing for the absolute rookie minimum.

The purpose of my prior post was just to alleviate any concerns of others on this BBS that Dorsey getting a four-year, ~$3.5 million deal does not adversely affect the Rockets from a luxury tax standpoint.

 

^^^ At least not any more than if Dorsey was playing on the smallest possible NBA player contract.

 

I don't quite follow. If Dorsey, a rookie, is getting the "equivalent" of a two-year veteran minimum, then technically is he still a "minimum salary player"? For a rookie to be considered a minimum salary player, I would think he'd have to be getting the rookie minimum. Is that wrong?

 

Not necessarily. I think Morey likes all our bigs a lot, including Scola, Landry, Dorsey, Hayes, and Yao. Also Mutombo, if he joins. He probably thinks all of them are capable of contributing right away. But there are only so many available slots in the rotation.

 

From http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#16

This is what Bima is referencing, in general. It specifies free agents vs. "draft picks", but it's possible "draft picks" references first rounders -- 2nd rounders aren't treated differently in any other scenario.

 

Great catch, NIKEstrad. I very well may stand corrected.

It appears as though Dorsey being the Rockets' second round pick might have actually allowed him to count against the luxury tax for less than the two-year veteran minimum.

However, for any other scrub rookie free agent, that player would count against the luxury tax in the amount of the two-year veteran minimum salary.

Assuming that this is correct regarding teams' second round picks, then it is quite an advantage for second rounders making teams over rookie free agents, assuming both do well in training camp.

 

Agreed, great contract.

 

U really have thick skin.