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US Plans to Dominate World from Space

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Mar 19, 2002.

  1. glynch

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    I frankly am horrified by the US plans to dominate the world with space based weapons. The missile shield aka Star Wars is the first phase, with the offensive space based weapons to follow.

    Technology is hard to restrain. I think that such weapons if they come to exist should not be solely at the service of one country. As Haven has pointed out, this is because the interests are too narrow for the whole planet. Given the influence of Enron style corporate capitalism and donations to the president and congress, the interests involved in certain foreign policy decisions can be appallingly narrow.

    Let me say that I certainly think that if one country would be put in the position to dominate the earth from space, the US would be far from the worst, but it is too much power to give to the leaders of one country.

    Interestingly many who claim to be against one world government or big government support this plan to have one set of leaders dominate the world.

    .US plans for space based weapons
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    This world needs a one world government. I applaud the effort of ours to see to our safety by creating the missile defense systems in space, and why not the USA be the dominate world power? It is time for democracy to take it's turn.

    Good job G W.

    Oh, and this website is a primary example of people BELIEVING anything they read. The internet has opened up the world to any bozo with a keyboard.

    DaDakota
     
  3. Samurai Jack

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    glynch,

    I’m curious, why do these plans horrify you ? When I think of Star Wars system
    capable of defending our nation from missile attacks, I feel pretty good about it.

    Maybe I’m being selfish, but I would rather be the country with this capability, then
    the one without it.

    Also, what good does this technology do, if everyone has it ?????

    I’m not much of a debater, so take it easy on me . :D
     
  4. gettinbranded

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    Yes, but thats God's to take care of as the scriptures show.

    Daniel 2:44

    "...the God of Heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinate."
     
  5. TraJ

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    Why don't we pay for it and build it, but give everyone an access button just to be fair. That seems reasonable to me. ;)
     
  6. DaDakota

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    MY gosh GettingBranded is right, we should all lay down our arms as clearly GOD will take care of our borders.

    ;)

    DaDakota
     
  7. Nomar

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    I agree with DaDa.


    If we get too much power through this thing, too ****ing bad for everybody else. I would rather not be bombed than be fair.
     
  8. MadMax

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    a one-world government is a ridiculous, unmanageable possibility in my opinion....doomed to fail miserably. Divergent and diverse cultural values across the world alone seem to make it extremely unlikely to meet any success.


    having said that...i think it would be awesome if GWB would begin construction of the Death Star immediately!! :)

    i can't believe we're actually seriously talking about this....
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    I am for definitly pro on this one.

    It is very dificult to unseat a tyrant with the capability to take out New York.

    The Star Wars will be at the service of Canada and Mexico along with Nafta, Australia, South America, Cuba, etc.

    India and Pakistan may also be protected because the US doesn't want nuclear devices to be used by anyone including the US because of the environmetal impact.

    Has anyone seen Gundam Wing? Glynch is taking the position of the Peacekraft family
     
  10. glynch

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    Traj said: Why don't we pay for it and build it, but give everyone an access button just to be fair. That seems reasonable to me.

    I could conceivably go for something like this, with a 4/5 majority or something required to use it. I don't know.

    However, builiding such a system first and then deciding who should control it seems too dangerous and the fair political means to control it should be decided first.

    Dakota, I'm not sure what you mean about any yahoo with a keyboard. Do you dispute that there is this plan? That there is no danger of misuse?

    BTW I think eventually we will need world government Nuclear weapons and space weapons etc. almost require it in the long run.
     
  11. Joe Joe

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    Damn sounds like the US. I'd agree with your statement if you replaced cultural values with "factions and leadership".
     
  12. MadMax

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    Joe Joe -- how about not just replace it..but add it to it. that's a good point.

    Yes, within every nation there are disagreements. But there are certain aspects of a culture/nation that are so dominant and so widely accepted, that they're almost a trademark. For the US it would be Bill of Rights type stuff...you could say roughly the same for Great Britain...you absolutely positively can not say that for theocracies...and there are a few of those around the world. How do you convince people who believe that the only legitimate government is one controlled hand in hand with a church/mosque/temple that the "idolatry" of fundamental John Locke-style rights is the way to go??? How do you force them to accept those values???

    To me you can't....it was a problem for the Roman Empire (at least in part) and it would be even more so for the ENTIRE WORLD!! I think it's a pipe dream...and I think the attempts to install such a government would lead to all new levels of tyranny.
     
  13. Major

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    Yes, within every nation there are disagreements. But there are certain aspects of a culture/nation that are so dominant and so widely accepted, that they're almost a trademark. For the US it would be Bill of Rights type stuff...you could say roughly the same for Great Britain...you absolutely positively can not say that for theocracies...and there are a few of those around the world. How do you convince people who believe that the only legitimate government is one controlled hand in hand with a church/mosque/temple that the "idolatry" of fundamental John Locke-style rights is the way to go??? How do you force them to accept those values???

    I think the easiest way to explain why one-world govt wouldn't work (anytime soon, at least) is just to look at us. Would WE accept any other government ruling us? Would we be willing to scrap our Bill of Rights in favor of Britain's civil rights system? I would say no way. I don't see why any other country's people would feel any differently.
     
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    I agree 100% Max. I think that even when countires get too big, they really do not function that well (and, yes, I think the US is too big). If you expand this even more, it woul be silly.
     
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    How much reading have any of you done about the New World Order, and the like?

    (No, not the NWO of wrestling)
     
  16. B

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    Okay, I have no reason to trust this article. After I see some real proof, I'll be glad to commment on my ideas about this issue. DaDakota made a good point about any yahoo with a keyboard.

    On the other side, if this was true, of course our government would make us feel like nothing like this would ever happen. We'd be trained to think that other countries are just trying to set us against ourselves.

    The frustrations of looking at both sides of issues is starting to wear at me. Maybe one of this days I'll learn to be more closed in my ways of thinking. :)

    B
     
  17. MadMax

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    It's AMAZING how much common ground we're finding, Major!! :)

    Agreed...there is no way I would be willing to just lay down and say, "ok...go ahead and take due process away...take away equal protection clause...take away basic limits and checks and balances on govt power." And, like you, I wouldn't expect other countries would be willing to jump on board to acquire these rights...there are just some very fundamental differences in cultural values
     

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