I can agree with that rating. Outside of Kobe and LeBron (who isn't a guard), I can't think of any other wings that could have carried our team post Yao last year.
I would add I'm a bit surprised they put Tracy so high. I would have expected him at #5 or #5 behind Ginobili. That usually seems to be the typical nonconformist "look at me, I can make unique rankings" pick these days.
Too many of you have the same reply for Tmac. If he stays healthy... Lets hope for his health this year but other then that, I think 3-4 is a good spot for him.
35/7/4 averages in the NBA Finals, 26PPG on 63% shooting against the Pistons in the 2006 ECF, 28/8/5/2/1.5 on 49% shooting before elbow injury in 2007, etc...
I just don't get the people that refuse to see how great Wade is. Oh well. For those who say Tracy is a better player than Wade, few would argue he isn't more talented. But I think Tracy plays below his talent level more than any top-level player in the league. When it comes to results on the court when it counts, Wade beats him hands down. If I'm in a game 7 that is tied midway through the 4th quarter, one Wade is worth two Tracy McGradys.
I think none of you has remembered another guy who is off the top ten but can actually kill all the ten guys, ray allen in particular. That guy may not look so outstanding in his stats, but he's gonna the nightmare of most nba sgs Even though his pro position is not SG but he always match up with SGs at most times. Then who is he? He is bruce Bowen who is Ray-terminator.
I feel wade is in the same tier as Kobe / Lebron. Its very debateable who the best of those 3. McGrady is in the next tier below.
he has every bit of tmac's court vision and passing. i don't see how that can be argued based on the assists he averages and the passes he makes. lebron, tmac, and wade are all amazing in their ability to be scorers and distributors at the same time (something kobe is very poor at) and both find teammates all over the place and it's amazing to see the very best wingmen also be the very best passers (except kobe). while i might put tmac second to lebron and wade third, the difference is minimal at best and takes away an advantage tmac has over the rest of the list. and while tracy is significantly better at not turning the ball over (wade is just a turnover machine and tmac is above average at not turning it over), wade scores more and does it much more efficiently, and that's really tmac's biggest problem. like you mentioned, he takes bad shots and is not money at all on the mid-range jumper. his efficiency is so much lower than everyone else that it's a real problem. plus wade is unbelievably clutch, to a degree that tmac just is not, even if tmac is not unclutch. when healthy, i think wade can be argued to be better than kobe, but is certainly no worse than 2nd. he's just so clutch, makes so many plays, and passes so well. i'm glad the article gave tmac the respect he deserves at #3, instead of letting one of those lesser, non-franchise guys slip in ahead of him just b/c he's gotten worse. as it mentioned, for all his weaknesses, every time yao gets injured, tmac shows that he can still carry a team like few others. even when he's struggling, he seems to bring a calm and consistency to the way the offense works (even if his shot is inconsistent) that gets the team in a long-term comfort zone that allows them to win most every game they should and to steal the occasional one they shouldn't. his value really does go beyond his stats, which are impressive on their own.
McGrady is a different player when it comes playoff time. In regular season, I might take Wade over McGrady, but when it comes playoff, I take McGrady over wade. Simply because McGrady has yet have enough playoff time to explode, if he can get pass the first round, his confidence level (and the whole team's) will fly sky high. Wade is a very good player, but so far he hasn't shown that he is capable of leading a team by himself. Next season, if wade can turn miami around in a lesser version of the celtic season turnaround. I will put him over McGrady.
even if you wanted to argue that wade was assisted by the refs that year he won the title, wade still made numerous clutch plays in that playoff run that put him on par with mcgrady if not higher. I also don't believe shaq not nearly as dominant that year as in years past. In fact, that finals performance from him was pretty piss poor.
I counldn't agree more, TMC is #2 guard in the L behind kobe, kobe is much stable in some ways, Wade is far worse than TMC.
Kobe is tops, then some would say Wade, some T-Mac. While it's true Wade gets excessive helps from the officials, he does take it to the rim more than T-Mac. I think T-Mac is the better playmaker. Wade's assist numbers are up there, but he's not a good ball handler and isn't much of a decision maker. Too many times I see him leave his feet and get trapped in the air. Another thing people deny is durability. T-Mac is more durable than D-Wade. Check the games played. Wade has been injury prone since day 1. He did have 2 healthy seasons with Shaq. If you're gonna use the "if healthy" quote on T-Mac it must be applied to Wade also. People gonna say, "look at the olympics", well look at T-Mac last year before the elbow. He was head and shoulders above the rest of the league. At least T-Mac stuck it out and made the playoffs with an equally banged up squad. While Wade had the Heat very successful...... in the Beasely sweepstakes.
People who say Wade is overrated must be secret Mavs fans or something. I would say Wade-when healthy-is still a better player than Tmac: 1) He is younger and thus has an edge in athleticism. But Tmac's size and skills equals that out somewhat. 2) Most importantly, he plays with MUCH more heart and intensity than Tmac. Its such a shame too, because if Tmac can play with even half of his (Wade) heart and determination, he can easily lead us into a championship.* But in terms of pure talent and impact, Tmac belongs right around the 3-4 spot. Pierce is a SG by nature so I don't know why he wasn't on the list...... *assuming he's -yes-healthy[/I].