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Manny gets N.L. Player of the Month for August

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by BrooksBall, Sep 4, 2008.

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Who should've won?

  1. Manny

    4 vote(s)
    8.7%
  2. Pujols

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%
  3. Wigginton

    41 vote(s)
    89.1%
  4. Other (please specify and justify)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. BrooksBall

    BrooksBall Member

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    August stats for Manny, Pujols and Wigginton:

    Manny:
    AVG: .415
    HR: 9
    RBI: 25
    Team Record: 13-16

    Pujols:
    AVG: .398
    HR: 8
    RBI: 22
    Team Record: 13-13

    Wigginton:
    AVG: .379
    HR: 12
    RBI: 26
    Team Record: 21-9

    There are more in-depth statistics to look at but I just pulled some of the basics.

    Did Ty get robbed? Did Manny deserve the award? Someone else?

    I say Wigginton deserved it because of the team record and the fact that he not only had to play out of position for most of the month but did a good job at it while swinging a hot bat.
     
  2. wreck

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    thats definitely bs. first they go by numbers then by team accomplishments, including strength of schedule, he should have been a shoe in
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I don't think you can argue with the selection of Ramirez (unless you just want to argue). He also had an OBP over .500.
     
  4. Landlord Landry

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    seems like name recognition won here.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The only stat that Wigginton was clearly better in was HR and SLG. The OBP was .508 - .394 as Ramirez walked 18 times and Wigginton 1 over the month. Ty had a great month, but as a fan, I'd sacrifice the 3 HR difference for the .114 OBP difference.
     
  6. The Cat

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    Does anyone seriously, actually believe that the performance of other Astros pitchers or position players had much to do with Wigginton, good or bad? It's silly, imo, to use team record as a metric to measure individuals in any sport, but especially so in baseball where everything is so independent.

    I like Ty a lot, but Manny earned it, imo.
     
  7. DOMINATOR

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    +1...
     
  8. BrooksBall

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    I agree with you. Ty's performance had little or nothing to do with all the other guys that stepped up during August, especially the pitchers. Team record should hardly be a factor when evaluating one hitter. If you only consider individual hitting statistics, Ramirez and Pujols were probably better because of how much they got on base. Ty has really been on a tear though recently.
     
  9. kaleidosky

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    i say you could argue for wiggy or manny. Him playing out of position earns him nothing for this award. Same with team performance.. so I'm fine with either choice.
     
  10. TMac640

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    Being very partial as a fan, I really wanted Wigginton to get it. Manny's been on an equally impressive tear though.
     
  11. BALLhog 247 365

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    without manny the dodgers wouldn't still have a shot at catching up to arizona in that dismal west
     
  12. MadMax

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    ty should have won because he's an astro. :)
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Great trade by the Red Sox.
     
  14. BrooksBall

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    LOL..
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    L.A. since the trade - 16 -16 (they were playing .500 ball before the trade)

    Boston since the trade - 21 - 9 (they were playing .560 ball before the trade)
     
  16. rrj_gamz

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    Ty got robbed...

    But c'mon, Manny doesn't pitch...
     
  17. msn

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    So Manny also wins AL player of the month, just for leaving.
     
  18. Roc Paint

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    Manny being UNManny
     

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