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[Fox 26] Rockets Trade Ewing, Jr. to Knicks for Frederic Weis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rikesh316, Aug 29, 2008.

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  1. hooroo

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    #121 hooroo, Aug 30, 2008
  2. DrNuegebauer

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    Too right!

    We were second best last year, and have already added Artest...
     
    #122 DrNuegebauer, Aug 30, 2008
  3. ling ling

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    wave the player = 0 return.

    Trade for a player that does not have contract = trade exception?

    Is Weis's contract equivalent to 0 for trade purposes?
     
    #123 ling ling, Aug 31, 2008
  4. Carl Herrera

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    Still, accordng to the NY Post, the Rockets were not interested in Weis and was did the trade as a favor to Ewing Sr.



    http://www.nypost.com/seven/08302008/sports/knicks/knicks_get_ewing_jr__in_weis_deal_126730.htm

    As I said before, it may also be a favor to Donnie Walsh, who had some interest in the kid and probably doesn't mind paying him 200K to take a look at him at camp.

    Anyhow, it's not consequential from a basketball point of view, but a smart move to get some good will (and it's a good thing to get some good will when you can. The NBA is a small village, you want to be liked by your peers. These small gestures add up).
     
    #124 Carl Herrera, Aug 31, 2008
  5. TManiAC

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    Yeah but the point guard position is easily our weakest cover.

    Adding a DJ Strawberry, or someone like Antonio Daniels or Damien Wilkins will help stuff Deron Williams and other stronger point guards.
     
    #125 TManiAC, Aug 31, 2008
  6. ArtV

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    $0 was Ewing's contract value on Friday. $0 is Weis' contract value and will always will be if he stay's on his current course. Therefore, the trade works.

    Now if we just cut Ewing we would have the same $ outcome but Ewing would lose his guarantee money (begins on Monday) and would most likely show up to someone's camp for free (most likely NY's). Then if he's cut, he get $0. I see this as a favor to the Ewings from both the Rocket's and NY's view point.
     
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    A 7 foot backup center for a guy we were gonna cut anyway.... An insurance policy on Mutumbo's return - perfect move! Morey is da man! Sorry... continue b****in about how Weis isn't an allstar...
     
    #127 kjayp, Aug 31, 2008
  8. blender

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    I haven't heard of any trade exception to be created by this move for Weis.

    Unless the Rockets suddenly decide to bring him over, Weis is worth nothing, I think.
     
    #128 blender, Aug 31, 2008
  9. ling ling

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    Ewing's contract was worth ~$442K on Friday. It's just not guaranteed.
     
    #129 ling ling, Aug 31, 2008
  10. hooroo

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    ewing was moved via the min salary exception. no trade exceptions are generated out of that.
     
    #130 hooroo, Aug 31, 2008
  11. Rover16

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    People need to stop over analyzing this minor move. It was a salary dump and a favor to ewing since he worked with the rockets before. Weiss will never play in the nba cause he was drafted in 1999 when ewing jr was 14 years old.
     
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  12. ArtV

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    The contract value as far as the league was concerned on Friday was 0. On Monday, it would have counted for some value because part of that would be guaranteed. And since both teams are over the cap, he could not have been traded for nothing (Weis' option which has 0 value) unless a TE was used which I don't think happened.
     
    #132 ArtV, Aug 31, 2008
  13. ling ling

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    This makes more sense than saying Ewing's salary was worth $0 in the trade.

    Ewing's salary was worth $442K for trading purposes, just like it was when he was traded along w/ Artest.
     
    #133 ling ling, Aug 31, 2008
  14. PeacePeace

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    This trade did a few things, 1) saved money 2) gave Ewing Jr. a nice situation 3) and had a humor factor cause it was the guy that got dunked on. lol only if we traded for stewie...

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  15. tmactoyao

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    thats not weis..
     
    #135 tmactoyao, Aug 31, 2008
  16. Ghettostar85

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    looks like .....stewie
     
    #136 Ghettostar85, Aug 31, 2008
  17. PeacePeace

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    yea, i know. its stewie.
     
    #137 PeacePeace, Aug 31, 2008
  18. Zacatecas

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    How many more years do the Rockets hold the Rights for Frederic Weis?
     
    #138 Zacatecas, Sep 1, 2008
  19. GotGame15

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    lmfao...those commentators are hilarious, i wish the rockets would have some exciting commentators like that instead of Bill Bore-ell
     
    #139 GotGame15, Sep 1, 2008
  20. rocketsonlyfan

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    This move is nothing more than a way for Morey to clear roster space. Our roster is already loaded with 14 guaranteed contracts...and that doesn't include Dikembe or Landry. Since NBA rosters are only allowed 15 players on the roster this move had to be done to reduce the number of players in the potential roster pool.

    More analysis at www.rocketsonly.com

     
    #140 rocketsonlyfan, Sep 2, 2008
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