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Yates Guilty: Life or Death?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by giddyup, Mar 12, 2002.

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What should happen to Andrea Yates?

  1. Life in Prison

    13 vote(s)
    24.5%
  2. Death Penalty

    27 vote(s)
    50.9%
  3. She should have been found Insane

    13 vote(s)
    24.5%
  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    Was Ray Curruth?
    Was susan smith?
    Oj?

    anyone who would commit murder is INSANE IMO

    She deserves to die and burn in hell

    if she was a black male. . . it would not even be a question
    but miss Lillie always gets the benefit of the doubt

    Hell Dahmer didn't get the death penalty

    White privilege lives on./....


    Rocket River
     
  2. dimsie

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    KILL THE b****!!!

    Sometimes, ostensibly normal people frighten me far more than clinically insane ones.
     
  3. keeley

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    OJ was guilty?
     
  4. coma

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    She ended FIVE lives.

    Lives of FIVE innocent children.

    HER FIVE CHILDREN.

    "She was clinically insane."
    "She was perfectly sane."

    Who cares?

    She drowned her FIVE kids.

    Take a moment to pretend to imagine what it would be like to drown to death.

    Add to that, while you are being drowned, you look up to see it's your loving mother that is putting you through this horrible situation.

    Oh and one more thing, imagine if you get up for air THREE times, only to have your loving mother force you back down again. Holding you down until you start choking on the water, then your head starts to feel like it's going to burst, all your violent kicking and thrashing only speeds up your need for oxygen.

    Now you're DEAD.

    Drowned in a bathtub of vomit and dirty water.

    Under NO circumstance should she be alive.
     
  5. dimsie

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    Coma:

    Funnily enough, most of us know what happened. We're all capable of reading the same accounts that you are and visualising the same things that you can. You don't have a monopoly on 'imagination.' But despite all that, not all of us *have* to agree with the idea of the death penalty. Especially not for the insane. So save it.
     
  6. mr_oily

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    from her confession....hmmmmm, crazy?
    Disgusting!!!!!:mad:

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/drownings/1266294
    MEHL: How many bathtubs are in your home?

    YATES: One.

    MEHL: OK, so it's just the, uh, the master bath I guess you would call it?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: OK, is it a regular sized bathtub or is it a big one?

    YATES: Regular sized.

    MEHL: How far did you fill it?

    YATES: About three inches from the top.

    MEHL: About three inches from the top, um, after you drew the bath water, what was your intent? What were you about to do?

    YATES: Drown the children.

    MEHL: OK. Why were you going to drown your children?


    15 SECONDS OF SILENCE


    MEHL: Was it, was it in reference to, or was it because the children had done something?

    YATES: No.

    MEHL: You were not mad at the children?

    YATES: No.

    MEHL: OK, um, you had thought of this prior to this day?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: Um, how long have you been having thoughts about wanting, or not wanting to, but drowning your children?

    YATES: Probably since I realized I have not been a good mother to them.

    MEHL: What makes you say that?

    YATES: They weren't developing correctly.

    MEHL: Behavioral problems?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: Learning problems?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: So after you drew the bath water, what happened?

    YATES: I put Paul in.

    MEHL: And how old is Paul?

    YATES: Paul is 3.

    MEHL: OK, and when you put Paul in the bath water, was he face down or face up?

    YATES: He was face down.

    MEHL: And he struggled with you?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: How long do you think that struggle happened?

    YATES: A couple of minutes.

    MEHL: And you were able to forcibly hold him under the water?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: By the time you brought him out of the water, had he stopped struggling?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: There was no more movement?

    YATES: No

    MEHL: And, after you brought him out of the water, what did you do?

    YATES: I laid him on the bed.

    MEHL: Face up or face down?

    YATES: Face up.

    MEHL: Did you cover him?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: Did you cover his entire body?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: With what?

    YATES: A sheet.

    MEHL: OK, so after you put Paul on the bed and covered him, then what happened?

    YATES: I put Luke in.

    MEHL: OK, how old is Luke?

    YATES: He's 2.

    MEHL: OK, and was he face down in the water or face up?

    YATES: Face down.

    MEHL: Did he struggle?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: How long do you think that struggle lasted?

    YATES: Just a couple minutes.

    MEHL: OK, and when you brought Luke out of the water, um, was he, any movement at all?

    YATES: No.

    MEHL: What happened to Luke then?

    YATES: I put him on the bed.

    MEHL: Um, did you cover him with the same sheet that you'd used to cover Paul?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: OK, so Paul and Luke are on the bed, then what happens?

    YATES: I put John in.

    MEHL: OK, and how old is John.

    YATES: John is 5.

    MEHL: OK. How did you get John to come into the bathroom?

    YATES: I called him in.

    MEHL: OK, and, and he came in...

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: Um, did you say anything to him?

    YATES: I told him to get in the tub.

    MEHL: OK, and did he?

    YATES: No.

    MEHL: Um, what did he do?

    YATES: I put him in.

    MEHL: Did you pick him up, how? Under the arms?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: And did he go into the water face down or face up?

    YATES: Face down.

    MEHL: OK. Did he struggle with you violently.

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: Did that struggle last longer than with the younger children?

    YATES: A little bit, yeah.

    MEHL: OK, but still you were able to hold John under the water?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: And eventually he stopped struggling?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: OK, when you brought John out of the water, was there any movement at all from him?

    YATES: No.

    MEHL: What happened then?

    YATES: I put him on the bed.

    MEHL: Did you then cover him along with Paul and Luke?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: OK, and then what happened?

    YATES: I put Mary in.

    MEHL: Did you actually have to go out into the other room to get Mary?

    YATES: No, she was in there already.

    MEHL: Was Mary in the bathroom with you when Paul, Luke and John all went in the water?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: OK, what was she doing?

    YATES: She was crying.

    MEHL: OK, was she, was she sitting in a chair, one of those . . .

    YATES: She was sitting down.

    MEHL: On the floor?

    YATES: Um-hmm.

    MEHL: OK, um, so you picked Mary up?

    YATES: Um-hmm.

    MEHL: She go into the water face down or face up?

    YATES: Face down.

    MEHL: OK, she was able to struggle with you?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: Because she's only six months old, right?

    YATES: Um-hmm.

    MEHL: But she struggled and how, how long do you think she was able to struggle for?

    YATES: A couple of minutes.

    MEHL: OK, and after Mary had died, um, what did you do with her body?

    YATES: I left it in there and called Noah in.

    MEHL: OK, did Noah come immediately?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: And, when Noah walked in the bathroom, did he see Mary in the tub?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: What did he say?

    YATES: He said, `What happened to Mary?'"

    MEHL: And what did you say?

    YATES: I didn't say anything. I just put him in.

    MEHL: Did he try to run from you?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: Did he get out of the bathroom or were you able to catch him?

    YATES: I got him.

    MEHL: OK, and Noah is 7, is that correct?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: Did Noah put up the biggest struggle of all?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: OK, did he go in the water face down or face up?

    YATES: He was face down.

    MEHL: Um, when you were struggling with Noah, did you have to, did he try to flip over and come up for air at any time?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: Did he ever make it out of the water long enough to get a gasp of air or anything?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: How many times?

    YATES: A couple times.

    MEHL: But you forced him back down into the water?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: How long do you think that struggle lasted?

    YATES: Maybe three minutes.

    MEHL: OK, and after Noah was dead, when you brought him out of the water, was there any sign of life from him.

    YATES: No.

    MEHL: What did you do with his body?

    YATES: I left it there.

    MEHL: OK, so Mary and Noah were left in the bathtub?

    YATES: I took Mary out.

    MEHL: After John, excuse me, after Noah was dead?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: OK, what did you do with Mary's body?

    YATES: Put her on the bed.

    MEHL: Did you cover her?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: And you left Noah's body in the tub?

    YATES: Yes.

    MEHL: OK, then what did you do?

    YATES: I called the police.

    MEHL: OK, did you call 911?

    YATES: Yes.

     
  7. JuanValdez

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    I'd have liked an "I don't know" option in the poll. I don't really feel it is our place to say what the jury should find.
     
  8. giddyup

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    This account nauseates me. She even put them in the water face down so she wouldn't have to look them in the eyes.

    JV, my question is a poll of YOUR preference not a directive to the jurors.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Screw this.....KILL HER !!!

    I don't give a RAT'S ASS if she is insane or not. She MURDERED HER KIDS !!!!!!

    Did her CHILDREN get a chance to appeal, or live a life in prison....NO !!!!

    I don't want one FRICKEN HARD EARNED DOLLAR going to her life, string her up now, she deserves no quarter.

    SHE KILLED HER KIDS !!!!!


    Sheesh people....HER KIDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    She should be shot now to save us taxpayers the money she is going to waste on appeals.

    Did her KIDS get an appeal?

    ARGHHHHHH !!!!!!!!

    DaDakota
     
  10. coma

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    dimsie,

    I was asked my opinion, I gave it.

    Clean the crusts off your monitor, and read my post again. I didn't say everyone had to agree with me. Until you show me where I did, do NOT put words in my mouth.

    I do have to commend you on the recognition that I don't have the monopoly on imagination though. That was Nobel prize winning research.
     
  11. MadMax

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    I really struggle with this...on the one hand, I'm afraid the death penalty puts innocent people to death sometimes...and for that reason I don't like it. But in a case like this, there is no doubt of guilt. If you're going to have a death penalty at all, this seems like the kind of case it would be used in. But I recognize that if you implement it here, it also means you end up implementing it in those cases where the defendant may or may not actually be responsible for the crime.

    I'm glad it's not my decision...and I can't vote in this poll. Sorry.
     
  12. ArtVandolet

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    #32 ArtVandolet, Mar 13, 2002
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  13. Rocket River

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    He is in the court of popular opinion
    Many people want him to face the needle.


    Rocket River
    and yes. . . he really is white ;-)
     
  14. Rocket River

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    U know . . .
    I understand she is in fairly decent shape

    Two Lungs, Two Kidneys and a heart
    couple of corneas
    Maybe she can make 5 to 7 lives better for her crime

    in other words. . . . Divie her up for the public good.!!!
    I don't care if she *isn't* a donor

    Rocket River
     
  15. keeley

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    lol :D

    I couldn't care less if they give him the needle or not, personally. Just stay the hell away from me and mine.

    With regards to Yates, I'm not afraid to say that I really dunno what to think. I don't reside in Texas so it wouldn't be my tax $$$ being spent to put her up. My Catholic side says not to kill her. I'll let you guys figure the rest out.
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    And my comment is that MY opinion and YOURS too is uninformed and worse than valueless.
     
  17. dimsie

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    Coma:

    Clean the crusts off your monitor, and read my post again. I didn't say everyone had to agree with me. Until you show me where I did, do NOT put words in my mouth.

    Oh, please. You ordered us all to think about the crime and gave us graphic descriptions of how you imagined it. Your implication was clear; only those of us who aren't really 'thinking' would seriously consider insanity a reasonable verdict.

    Bay for blood all you like. It doesn't resurrect those kids.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    No it does not resurrect them, but it stops HER from ever doing any harm again.

    DaDakota
     
  19. giddyup

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    My opinion is not uninformed and is extremely valuable to me. Why do you not place a value on yours and why do you say that you are uninformed?
     
  20. Rocketman95

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    So does keeping her in prison for the rest of her life.
     

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