I was born and raised here but I don't consider it that much of a rivalry, since we never play them. If we played them every year, that would be different. But it's never going to happen. I don't care about preseason. For a rivalry to be compelling, both sides have to hate eachother evenly. Cowboy fans don't hate us, they don't care either way about us. As a Texan fan, it feels silly to hate the Cowboys so much when they are so indifferent about us. Frankly, it makes us look like the jealous little brother. We're better than that. I save all my hate for the Memphis Titans. Those ignorant titty baby's don't even have a real team, they just have Houston's left-overs.
Those are old Houston Rivals. I'm sorry if I don't have Dallas envy. I'm not completely indifferent to the Cowboys as I would say a Dallas game is more interesting than say KC. I do hate the cowboys when they are shown on TV instead of the Texans in Austin.
As much as I'd love for the Texans to play the Cowgirls every year, the current system works pretty well. The NFL has gone to great lengths to make the schedules as "even" as possible for teams within a division. Ultimately, even though the game would be for statewide "bragging rights," it would amount to basically nothing more. The NFC-AFC split dictates that the game would be essentially meaningless. The game will only matter when it takes place in February.
It would be a great addition for the Turkey day line up. Texans and cowboys, to go along with turkey and some pecan pie.
they weren't thrilled with 19-10. i don't know if you've ever lived in dallas or in their media market...but they dislike houston a lot more than they like to pretend they don't.
very much so; there's an assumed heir of superiority - what? why should we care about houston? have they won 5 super bowls?... they spend way too much time telling us how much they don't care about houston, a sure sign they really do. their coverage of the SB when it was here was laced with petty, "they've hosted a SB, but we've actually won them" jealousy; they were incensed the football world was focused on something other than their pristine dallas cowboys. god, i hate dallas. frankly, as someone else noted, i like playing them every 4 years - it lends the game a special aura. plus, as big a deal as it'd be here (especially when the texans are playoff-caliber at the same time as the cowboys), no one outside of texas would care about a houston/dallas match-up any more than a texan would care about a giant/jet match-up. and it's not like the nfl needs a gimmick to generate interest.
i adopt this post as my own....i agree entirely. i really don't want them changing the schedule, either. but the idea that dallas folks really don't care that much about houston is not verified by my own experience. i remember dallas friends being so disappointed the rockets won rings...they all became knicks and magic fans.
I bet if you took a poll in Dallas and asked them if they would prefer to play Houston with one of these two games each year they would say yes. Heck, this year Dallas is playing a "first place schedule" so playing a last place Houston team with one of these two games should be fine with them.
dude, i lived there for 10 years: they care. two of my favorite sports memories of my time there were the days after 1) 19-10; 2) the rockets going up 2-0 in dallas in.. what was that? '05? there was a silence over the city both days; you could feel it - it was great. i've never, in my life, enjoyed talk radio more than those two days.
i remember lots of articles about houston hosting the super bowl in "metroplex" news papers...one could argue the huge stadium being built in arlington was a direct result of that. they couldn't fathom houston hosting a super bowl 2x and them hosting it never. galloway wrote a great article about it, actually...i'll see if i can find it.
Quoted for truth! Three other fine days were after losing to the Heat in the Finals, losing to the Warriors in the first round, and losing to the Giants in the second round AT HOME... they didn't involve Houston teams, but it was still great.
I don't doubt people in dallas hate Houston. Why wouldn't they? We're better than them. I still maintain that most cowboy fans don't hate the Texans. They have their own problems to worry about (a decade of nothing but 1st round exits if they even make the playoffs, choker for a QB, idiot of an owner, etc.) I watched last year's preseason game at a Houston sports bar. Lots of Texan fans and a few cowboy fans. The Texans fans were acting like it was the Superbowl or something. That to me, was a little embarrassing. It's a preseason game. Like I said, I hate the titans much more than the cowboys. More history there.
As someone who lives there, absolutely correct. Also, when people (Dallas) whine over and over again about how they don't care about something... it's usually because they do.
There's the problem. In most years we only have a preseason game to get hyped about when talking about Texans/Cowboys. When that's all you got, Texans fans will milk it for all they can.
I agree that it's tough to create a rivalry when you don't play. But the five Super Bowls thing is a little silly. You're talking about games from 15+ years ago (two 30+ years ago) that a sizable chunk of the fan base can barely remember. It's comparable to Rockets fans talking trash to Mavs fans about '94 and '95 when the Mavs were in their prime... never made a lot of sense to me. I'm proud of our titles, sure, but it doesn't dictate how I feel about our team today and in this era.
there's certainly an apathy toward the texans; true. especially after they were able to eradicate 19-10 with that trottling they gave us two years ago. but why would ANY team actively dislike the texans? hatred in sports is usually founded on hating someone for having what you don't. BUT... they care about houston in general; they do. my favorite dallas past time is dallasites complaine about houston's weather and traffic as if they live in a 72-degree dome and use jet cars for their commute. having lived both places, there's not enough of a difference to hold either against the other. but anything to make themselves feel superior... that's dallas, in a nutshell.
I have a hard time hating the Cowboys much these days because they've gone so long without winning anything that the fanbase has become a little more humble (not all of it, of course, but on average). The height of my hatred was probably 1997 one afternoon in November the week that the Tennessee Oilers (as long as they were the Oilers, I still rooted for them, despite my dislike of the move) were playing the Cowboys in Dallas. The Cowboys were sitting at 6-6. They hadn't been playing well all season, but Cowboys fans apparently still thought the 1997 Cowboys were the same as the Super Bowl Champion Dallas Cowboys and were calling in to the sports radio stations talking about playoff scenarios. The Oilers were also 6-6, in the midst of one of their many 8-8 seasons they put together during that era. I recall one caller specifically talking about how 10-6 would guarantee the Cowboys a playoff spot, so we might as well start making plans for the post season because 10-6 was a certainty. The host of the show said something along the lines of "What about the Oilers? The Cowboys could lose to them." And the caller actually did one of those pffft noises before saying "I don't think that's possible". That attitude so summed up the Cowboys fans to me. Arrogant when they no longer had any reason to be arrogant. Certain that their 6-6 team was light years better than the 6-6 team they were playing that coming week. I just wished the guy would've called back after the Cowboys lost 27-14 to the Oilers. Or after that season when the Cowboys managed to lose their remaining games and end the season at 6-10.
