Olympics: 'Ethnic' children exposed as fakes in opening ceremony

Han-Uighur relation and inter-ethnic marriage in greater China has existed for more than 2000 years. Imperial envoy Zhang Qian in the Han Dynasty, for instance, married a Xiongnu (ancestor to modern day Uighur) wife during his mission to the western region.

Sammy, you can thank PRC's minority policy for allowing Uighurs to carry knives freely, in a way to keep their barbaric tradition. But considering that Han (Wei Qing, Huo Qubing, Ban Chao during the Han Dynasty, and Sheng Shicai of Republic of China as of late) routinely kicked Xiongnu/Uighurs' ass when they needed to, I wouldn't exactly say Hans are afraid of Uhigurs.

 

You have to admit there's a deep irony here though. China is trying to show off it's cultural diversity by using actors of all the same ethnic background????

Considering the human rights record, it's a bit Orwellian in my opinion.

 

FFB has a kid? Holy Alimony!

 

I think the idea was to incorporate all of them in the celebration. They were a symbol

 

I really haven't bought into the claime that the soliders were forced to wear diapers under the huge scroll. That article mentioned they had to stay under the scroll for up to seven hours. However, didn't the whole opening ceremony just last a little more than 4 hours???? What's the point of hidding under the scroll for 7 hours?

As for the stripping, i think the girls were not naked at the measurement, but with their underpants and bras on. In China, high school girls are required to take off their clothes, leaving only underwears to see whether they have some physical abnormalities as part of the physical examination for national entrance examination.

 

Since everything about China now(and perhas afterwards?) is under intense scrutiny from media, the margin for error is pretty small. It's so easy to find fault with an unpopular regime.

With all those scrupulous and tremendous efforts put into the preparation for the Olympic game, in some sense, China (or maybe the government, CCP?)sitll hasn't prepared well. From tibet riots, to global torch relay, now to the opening ceremony, there have been so much unexpected issues ever since. Those things were never part of our visions for the game.

International media gives China( this time, both chinese people and CCP) as much glorification as humiliation during the whole process.

Maybe to China, that's part of the pain for being open up and trying to intergrate into a different system.

If that's what makes a nation great and mature, then be it. Let's continue to talke and conmunicate, however irritate it would be for a longer time than we'd like.

 

I'm pretty sure the people that get to performed at the Olympic opening ceremonies "op-in". To most Chinese, it would be a honor to perform there and they know it comes with the territory. Besides, diapers are fairly sanitary, it aint like they're in India or something (Quoting Russell Peteres "India smells like s---". )

http://kendrive.blog.co.uk/2008/07/08/they-pay-you-to-use-the-public-toilet-4418457

 

I remember seeing this on tv and noticing that none of those kids looked like minorities at all, I was thinking they should have done at the very least a better job than that.

However, I think it's short sighted to blame the Chinese government on the show, they funded it but Zhang Yimou and his crew oversaw all the elements and chose to get stand-ins.

The government runs these minority things all over the country all the time and never has a problem getting real minorities to dress up in their clothing together for photo-ops. I'm gonna have to blame this one on the director.

BTW, Uighur food is my favorite, it's the one food missing in NYC.

 

....and the truth comes out. China regards its subjects as "barbarians"

Hey, wnes, the 20th century called, it wanted to tell you that labeling minorities as barbarians is no longer acceptable.

 

If only the PRC would incorporate the Uighurs into their Olympic team, their field and wrestling results would dramatically improve.

 

they were soldiers not volunteers. and i don't think they performed, they basically worked as slaves underneath to move the scroll.

 

My bad, but then if they were soldiers ..... meh. It's the millitary, I'm sure people in service goes through worse than that. This is a question for other Chinese posters, is the army in Mainland China a "volunteer" army like the U.S. or is it like Israel, Korea, and Taiwan where there are a required service?

 

It's a volunteer army. But the perks are supposedly real good. A family friend is an officer in the army. His car, which has a special license plate, is literally above the law... as in the police has no authority to do anything to it. You can illegally park, speed, whatever.

In a corrupt country, people in power gets lots of perks. And when you have almost all the guns in the country, you tend to have a lot of power.

 

This comes as no surprise, considering China's marginalization of its ethnic minorities.

 

Uh-umm, Sammy, I only speak for myself.

Being more of an advocate in equal opportunity, I'd do away with some of the policies catering specifically to certain ethnic minorities if I were to decide. Not allowing unruly citizens to carry knives in places where they can jeopardize public safety would be one.

In the U.S., guns are permitted only in hunting and, more rarely, self defense, but not in settling disputes. Can you imagine what would it be like if those road rages end up in a wild west style with all conflicting parties pulling their guns from the glove boxes and shooting at each other?

Likewise, if you got into a verbal fight in a Beijing bar with some hotblooded knife-carrying patriotic Uighur dude who doesn't particular like your splittism bullcrap, I'd cringe at the thought of you getting skinned alive (believe me, that could happen).

Overall, though, I can see PRC has been doing quite an amicable job in discouraging the continuation of barbaric traditions widely practiced by some ethnic minorities while preserving the essence of their cultures.

 

Not so sure about Uighurs, but Mongolians are believed to be quite good at wrestling. I think China did send athletes from Inner Mongolia to compete in some previous Olympic wrestling competitions, disappointing results notwithstanding.

Heck, if there were a high-altitude mountain climbing event in Winter Olympics, PRC would not hesitate for a second to field a team with mostly Tibetan mountain climbers to compete in the event.

 

PRC would probably hesitate because there arent very many of them, if any.

The indigenous climbing guides and porters, even for expeditions in China, are all Sherpas from Nepal which has had a climbing industry for years. The Tibet side has very little climbing industry.

 

First off, this wouldn't happen now because Uighurs were deported from Beijing during the Olympics (and aren't supposed to be in bars anyway since they aren't supposed to drink).

Second - the ones I have talked to said they saw themselves as Uighurs first and not as Chinese.

Third - I saw nobody skinned alive after spending a week in occupied Turkestan, but you know I wasn't really looking .

 

That is as much credible as the "no blacks are allowed in Beijing bars during the Olympics" tabloid junk posted by some idiot not long ago. How does that turn out? Nobody can follow it up?

The ones you talked to ... LOL

How did they converse with you? Like, "me freedom fighter ... me hate Han Chinese ... me love new york lawyer?"

As a cheerleader for East Turkestan Islamic Movement, you sure would feel like home when you were in their safe houses. But you never know when their bomb making technique goes awry ...

 

The northeast route to the Mount Everest from the Chinese side is the more difficult one. China has since the 1950's attempted many successful expeditions to reach the peak. Every one of those team fielded Tibetan-Chinese, who in many occasions were in the majority. In the recent torch relay on Mount Everest, the team was captained by a Tibetan-Chinese. Your little diatribe has no basis, as usual.