Not many teams are going to give a 6'2" SG who can't play defense more than what the Bulls are offering him,no matter how sophisticated a scorer he his. The only similar example is of Monta Ellis. Cleveland should offer Wally's expiring contract/pick for Gordan plus a filler. Gordan can come off the bench for them and still get significant minutes. I doubt if that will happen though.
This divorce is looooooong overdue. I used to think Scott Skiles was the crux of the problem but that apparently wasn't so. I'm tired of hearing about it.
Even though Gordon can't be traded without being under contract, let's put that aside. Exactly why would the Bulls take this offer? I mean, Paxson isn't the greatest GM but he isn't on crack. At worst for the Bulls, Gordon takes the qualifying offer and plays out next year (or they snag value at the trade deadline). Otherwise, they will do a sign-and-trade and get real value back or Gordon will sign their long-term contract offer. Don't get me wrong, Gordon would fit on the Cavs and help them tremendously. But most teams don't give away proven NBA talent to help a big division rival.
I realized that and wrote I doubt if it would happen.My line of thinking was if Chicago doesn't get real value for him they could go that route,but I believe you are right and I was mistaken.
Personally I think this is a big mistake by the Bulls. Trade Hinrich for picks/expiring/filler, keep Gordon. I think Gordon will pair better with Rose. And since they didn't take Beasley I assume they think Rose is a sure fire stud PG.
Ellis is the better player IMO and deserves the money more so than Gordon. He is a far more dynamic player who can score at a much higher clip. Gordon relies on his jumper for shots where as Monta attacks the ring and scores much more efficiently. If Monta extends his range, look out.
He's a good player that's shaping up to be way overpaid. If he made $6-8M it would be ideal but when you demand $10M+ for a guy you ideally bring off the bench it's a tough pill to swallow. Can you start Gordon next to Rose? It made sense with Hinrich since Kirk is a taller, grittier player that could switch by guarding the opposing two while Gordon guards the opposing PG. They could use this strategy when Sefolosha started too. I don't think that strategy works with Rose. It might be best if both teams parted ways. The question is where could he go?
the grizzlies just renounced rights to a couple of guys... possibly clearing room to make an offer for someone. could be gordon. besides them, there is no team that can sign him outright for more than the MLE w/o a S&T. im pretty sure NY, PHI, and OKC could all make good offers.
Mayo and Gordon would be pretty redundant but definitely a possibility. You can cross Philly off since they haven't signed Iguodala yet. Other than that you're probably right about OKC.
okc is probably a speculation frontrunner. they can offer a lot of young bigs in a S&T (which the bulls would value), plus they only play the bulls twice a year.
A deal that would make sense would be the Lakers offer Odom for Gordon. You always here that the triangle doesn't need a true point and the Bulls could use a big and an expiring contract never hurts. I dunno if they'd trade a big for a guard, even a super softy one, but it would be a chance for both teams to get better especially if LA believes they can truly count on Bynum.
Actually I think both Gordon and Rose are stronger than Hinrich. My thinking is a the physical and athletic speciman Rose often take the opposing best guard, Gordon take the other. Rose's job is the set the offense, play defense, and try to lead a break, Gordon's job is pick up the scoring in the half court. Again, they picked Rose 1st overall over Beasley, I assume they think he can do something positive for them. Offensively, neither Hinrich nor Rose are likely to be near the perimeter player and scorer than Gordon is. Pairing Hinrich and Rose makes a very suspect perimeter shooting team and a weak offensive punch overall, something that used to be a Bulls strength (2 years ago). Thebo and Hughes are also poor perimeter shooters. If Chicago loses Gordon they are def lottery fodder unless in the East another 30 something win team makes it. Rose, Hinrich, Hughes, Thabo==horrible perimeter shooting for a team without a dominant interior player as well.
Rose is very athletic but I question whether having your franchise PG guarding Kobe, Wade and all those guys is really a good idea especially right off the bat. At least with Hinrich you have a guy that can realistically chase those guys around and hold is own. Same with Sefolosha. That's defensively. Offensively, I agree Rose/Hinrich and Rose/Sefolosha backcourts are both weak offensive units since Rose isn't going to score that much initially. You're right that taking Gordon completely out of the equation weakens them significantly but i'm still not sure a Rose/Gordon duo would be a good idea. I guess it's better than the alternative simply for the offense alone, though.
